1.1. Face Drivers. for Soft and Hard Turning with Drive Pins FSB FFB FFBH. Pipe Driver. Changeable Parts

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1 1.1 Face Drivers for Soft and Hard Turning with Drive Pins FSB SB FFB FFBH Pipe Driver Changeable Parts NEIDLEIN-SPANNZEUGE GmbH. Erlenbrunnenstraße Bodelshausen. Germany Phone +49 (0) / Fax +49 (0) / info@neidlein.de.

2 Face Drivers FSB/SB Clamping tools for tooling between centers Type FSB with flange-retainer The entire surface of the work piece can be tooled and finished by clamping with a maximum of torque transmission. NEIDLEIN face drivers are mechanical clamping systems which are suited for soft/green as well as hard tooling. Face drivers of type FSB/SB are poweroperated by the thrust of the tailstock. Work pieces are clamped centrically using a movable center pin. This way different centerings can be adjusted, thus ensuring a constant datum-point at the end face of work piece. Type FSB is mounted onto machine spindle nose using a flange adapter. Type SB with MK- or cylindrical retainer MK DIN 228 Type SB with taper shank and extracting nut for fast mounting into machine spindle. NEIDLEIN face drivers FSB/SB with movable center pins ensure: a maximum of torque transmission, thus achieving high metal removing rates datum-point at the end face of work piece stable datum-point in case of different centerings extended tool-life of driving devices and cutting tools due to vibration-free running true run-out accuracy up to 0.02 mm maximum clamping force is triggered by tailstock fixed center pin/fixed datum-point in clamped state compensating driving devices/ideal clamping of work piece simple handling 2 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

3 Type FSB with flange-retainer Clamping principle The center pin located on the side of the tailstock pushes the work piece against the movable center pin of the face driver. The center pin will draw back until the surface of the work piece bears against the drive pins. In this state the clamping bolt is clamped over the power flow in order to ensure a fixed datum-point during the entire tooling process. The drive pins are floatingly, thus compensating for variations in work piece, squareness and surface finish. The entire surface of the workpiece can now be finished in one single clamping. Please check page 6 and 7 for metal removing rates to be obtained as well as for the tailstock forces required. Compatible standard drive pins and center pins are listed on page 16 to 21. We will be glad to design clamping devices suitable for your work pieces. 1.1 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 3

4 Technical data type FSB face driver l l1 3 counter bores d2 D1 D2 D3 d3 d6 Ø100 h6 d5 D1 D2 D3 d d2 type FSB 01/0 cat. no. type d center d2 d3 d5 d6 l1 l2 drive fastening screw clamping Ø Ø pin type pcs D1 D2 D FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M FSB M All face drivers are supplied without drive pins. (Drive pins see page 16-20) Types FSB 01/0 are supplied with center body, all other types without center pin. (Center pins see page 21) Retaining elements for face drivers see brochure 2.0 It is the purpose of a flange-adapter to provide stable junction to the spindle machine. We supply these flange adapters for various sizes of spindle noses either in standard size (DIN 55028) or for spindle noses specific to manufacturer of machine-tools. Thus face drivers of range FSB can be used on different machines. Driving devices and center pins can be exchanged front view on the machine without any effort. Upon request and depending on the tooling direction of the machine the face driver can be equipped optionally with drive pins for counter-clockwise tooling (SR/tooling direction M3), for clockwise tooling (SL/tooling direction M4) or for both tooling directions (NV = bi-directional). Apart from the clamping diameters listed in the table under D1, D2, D3 we can also supply intermediate dimensions upon request. We can as well make extra-large center pins or mushroom centers appropriate to oversized centerings in work pieces. 4 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

5 Technical data type SB face driver l2 l1 l3 d3 D1 D2 D3 d d2 MK DIN 228 d2 D1 D2 D3 type SB 01/0 cat. no. type MK d center d2 d3 l1 l2 l3 drive clamping Ø Ø pin D1 D2 D SB M28 x SB M35 x SB M48 x SB M28 x SB M35 x SB M48 x SB M28 x SB M35 x SB M48 x SB M28 x SB M35 x SB M48 x SB M35 x SB M48 x SB M35 x SB M48 x SB M48 x SB M70 x SB M70 x SB M70 x SB M70 x Face driver with cylindrical shank upon request. All face drivers are supplied without drive pins. (Drive pins see page 16-20) Types SB 01/0 are supplied with center body, all other types without center pin. (Center pins see page 21) Type series SB with MK retainer is embedded directly in the machine spindle and removed by means of an extracting nut. Driving devices and center pins can be exchanged front view on the machine with out any effort. If necessary and depending on the tooling direction of the machine the face driver can be equipped optionally with drive pins for counter-clockwise tooling (SR/tooling direction M3), for clockwise tooling (SL/tooling direction M4) or for both tooling directions (NV = bi-directional). Apart from the clamping diameters listed in the table under D1, D2, D3 we also supply intermediate dimensions upon request. We also make extra-large center pins or mushroom centers appropriate to oversized centerings in work pieces. 1.1 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 5

6 Face Drivers FSB/SB: Calculations Tailstock force/ maximum chip cross section of metal removing Principle: the tailstock force pushes the work piece agianst the movable center pin of the face driver. The center pin will draw back until the surface of the work piece bears against the drive pins. tailstock force F R : The force onto the face driver required for metal removing is calculated on the basis of the empirical formula: F R [N] tailstock force q max [mm 2 ] maximum of chip cross section for metal removing D [mm] cutting diameter d [mm] clamping diameter m [-] material factor (see adjustment-chart below) maximum chip cross section q max : At a given tailstock force, maximum chip cross section is calculated as follows: Explanatory notes: The calculations refer to tooling against the face driver. In case of tooling against tailstock the calculated chip cross section is reduced by approx. 40 %. The first chip, however, should always be machined toward the face driver, in order to achieve an ideal penetration of the drive pins. Ratio D/d should not exceed 2, otherwise it would work inefficiently. material factor m adjustment chart: material factor m Rm [N/mm 2 ] examples 42CrMo4 16MnCr5 C 15E (Ck 15) S355J0 S235J0 25CrMo4 C 45E (Ck 45) 35S20 6 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

7 Chisel load of drive pins Keep the chisel load within the following range: N per mm chisel length the chisel load is calculated as follows: BS [N/mm] chisel load F R [N] tailstock force n [ - ] number of drive pins s [mm] chisel length exemplification: turning with FSB 3 face driver, 6 drive pins, respective length of chisel 4 mm, tailstock force 7200 N Calculation example for type FSB/SB Specific data of machine and work piece: maximum tailstock force: N material of work piece: C15E diameter of work piece, side of face driver: Ø 48 mm turning diameter: Ø 90 mm Selection of face driver: Face driver FSB 3/clamping diameter 44 mm 6 drive pins: chisel length 4 mm each tailstock force F R : In order to ensure sufficient pull-in power (see chisel load of drive pins) a tailstock force of approx N has to be supplied. Determination of material factor m: as per adjustment chart material factor: m (C15E) = 1.1 maximum chip cross section q max : The maximum chip cross section (at the ultimate turning-ø) is calculated as follows: Explanatory notes: This calculation refers to tooling against the face driver. The calculated chip cross section refers to the ultimate turning diameter. In case of further tooling toward pivot of work piece, even larger chip cross sections can be achieved ( formula), commensurate with turning diameter. 1.1 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 7

8 Face Drivers FFB/FFBH Clamping tools for tooling between center pins Type FFB with flange-mount The entire surface of work piece can be completely machined with one single clamping and with a maximum of torque transmission. NEIDLEIN face drivers are mechanical clamping systems, suitable for soft/green tooling and hard turning likewise. Face drivers of type FFB/FFBH are poweroperated on the side of the machine spindle as well as the side of the tailstock. The work pieces are clamped centrically by the fixed center pin. This operation results in high true run-out accuracy. Type FFB is mounted onto machine spindle nose using flange-adapter, adjustable for true run-out. Typ FFBH with flange-mount Drive pins of type FFBH are hydraulically activated and compensated, thus achieving excellent true run-out accuracy. Type FFBH is mounted onto machine spindle nose using flange-adapter adjustable for true run-out. NEIDLEIN face drivers FFB/ FFBH with fixed center pin ensure: maximum of torque transmission, thus achieving a high rate of metal removing datum-point location in center of workpiece ensures constant measures of length true run-out accuracy up to mm maximum extended service life of drive pins and cutting tools due to vibration-free running fixed clamping location compensating driving devices/ideal clamping of work piece easy handling 8 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

9 Type FFB/FFBH with flange-mount Clamping principle The center pin located on the side of the tailstock pushes the work piece against the fixed center pin of the face driver. The motion of the drive pins against the surface of the work piece is initiated by the clamping cylinder mounted into the machine. The drive pins are floatingly suspended, thus compensating irregularities with regard to possible unevenness of the surface of work pieces. The datum-point of work pieces on the machines is determined by the size of the center hole. The entire surface of work piece can now be tooled in one single clamping. See page 12 and 13 with data for achievable removal of material and the thrust requested. The appropriate standard drive pins and center pins can be found on page 16 to 21. We will be glad to design clamping devices suitable for your work pieces. 1.1 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 9

10 Technical data type FFB face driver l A total travel 6 d2 d3 d6 Ø100 h6 d5 d8 D1 D2 D3 d A 3 counter bores d8 d2 D1 D2 D3 Ø 48 d type FFB 01/0 cat. no. type d center d2 d3 d5 d6 d8 l1 l2 drive fastening screw clamping Ø Ø pin type pcs D1 D2 D FFB M FFB M FFB M FFB M FFB M FFB M FFB M FFB M FFB M FFB M FFB M FFB M All face drivers are supplied without drive pins. (Drive pins see page 16-20) Types FFB 01/0 are supplied with center body, all other types without center pin. (Center pin see page 21) The diamteter d8 refers to the standard center pins (see page 21). Retaining elements for face drivers see brochure 2.0 It is the purpose of an adjustable flange-adapter to provide stable junction to the spindel machine. We supply these flange adapters for various sizes of spindle noses in standard size (DIN 55028) or for spindle noses specific to machine-tool manufacturer. Thus face drivers of range FFB can be used allpurpose on different machines. Driving devices and center pins can be exchanged front view on the machine without any effort. Upon request and depending on the tooling direction of the machine, the face driver can be equipped optionally with drive pins for counter-clockwise tooling (SR/tooling direction M3), for clockwise tooling (SL/tooling direction M4) or for both tooling directions (NV = bi-directional). Apart from the clamping diameters enlisted in the table under D1, D2, D3 we can also supply intermediate dimensions upon request. We can as well make extra-large center pins or mushroom centers appropriate to oversized centerings in work pieces. 10 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

11 Technical data type FFBH face driver l A total travel 6 d3 d6 Ø100 h6 SW d5 d8 D1 D2 D3 d d2 3 counter bores cat. type d center d2 d3 SW d5 d6 d8 A l2 drive fastening screw clamping Ø no. Ø pin type pcs D1 D2 D FFBH M FFBH M FFBH M FFBH M FFBH M FFBH M All face drivers are supplied without drive pins and without center pins. (Changeable parts see page 16-20) The diamteter d8 refers to the standard center pins (see page 21). Retaining elements for face drivers see brochure 2.0 Technical data type FFBH hydraulic unit L cat. no. type SW1 d5 L SW2 D D SW1 d5 SW HE FFBH HE FFBH HE FFBH HE FFBH HE FFBH HE FFBH The general explanatory notes for this face driver FFBH can be obtained from the sheet technical data type FFB. For safe and smooth operation of face driver we recommend exchange of hydraulic unit after 1500 operating hours. Furthermore, we offer the option for professional maintenance of the exchanged hydraulic units in our production plant. 1.1 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 11

12 Face Drivers FFB/FFBH: Calculations Force of clamping cylinder/ maximum chip cross section Principle: the tailstock force pushes the work piece against the fixed center pin of the face driver. The drive pins are activated by the clamping cylinder mounted into the machine. force of clamping cylinder F S : The force onto the face driver required for metal removing is calculated on the basis of the empirical formula: F S [N] force of clamping cylinder q max [mm 2 ] maximum of chip cross section D [mm] cutting diameter d [mm] clamping diameter m [-] material factor (see adjustment-chart below) maximum chip cross section q max : At a given force of clamping cylinder, the maximum chip cross section is calculated as follows: tailstock force F R : In case of tooling against the face driver the tailstock force has to be approx. 20 % more than the force of the clamping cylinder F S. Explanatory notes: In case of tooling against the tailstock, the tailstock should be approx % higher than the force of the clamping cylinder, if not, then the chip cross section The first chip, however, should always be machined toward the face driver, in order to achieve an ideal penetration of the drive should be reduced by approx. 30 %. (as there is an addition of force of clamping cylinder and cutting force). pins. Ratio D/d should not exceed 2, otherwise it would work inefficiently. material factor m adjustment chart: material factor m Rm [N/mm 2 ] examples 42CrMo4 16MnCr5 C 15E (Ck 15) S355J0 S235J0 25CrMo4 C 45E (Ck 45) 35S20 12 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

13 Chisel load of drive pins Keep the chisel load within the following range: N per mm chisel length the chisel load is calculated as follows: BS [N/mm] chisel load F S [N] force of clamping cylinder n [-] number of drive pins s [mm] chisel length exemplification: turning with FFB 3 face driver, 3 drive pins respective length of chisel 7 mm, force of clamping cylinder 6300 N chisel load Calculation example for type FFB/FFBH Specific data of machine and work piece: maximum force of clamping cylinder: N material of work piece: 16MnCr5 diameter of work piece, side of face driver: Ø 62 mm tooling diameter: Ø 120 mm Selection of face driver: Face driver FFB 4/clamping diameter Ø 59 mm 5 drive pins each 7.5 mm chisel length force of clamping cylinder F S : In order to ensure sufficient entrainment (see chisel load of drive pins), a clamping cylinder force of approx N is needed. Calculation of material factor m: As per adjustment chart material factor: m (16MnCr5) = 1.2 maximum chip cross section q max : The maximum chip cross section (at OD-Ø) is calculated as follows: Explanatory notes: The calculated chip cross section refers to the extreme outer tooling diameter. In case of further tooling toward pivot of work piece, even larger chip cross sections can be achieved ( formula), commensurate with turning diameter. 1.1 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 13

14 Pipe Drivers NDG/AND Clamping tools for tooling between center pins Type NDG pipe driver The entire outside surface of a tubular work piece can be tooled with one single clamping and high torque transmission. By means of a pipe driver, large clamping areas can be covered. Clamping principle NEIDLEIN pipe driver NDG and AND ensure: high torque transmission, thus achieving a high rate of metal removing extended service life of driving chisels finishing of outer surface by clamping saving of time easy handling large clamping area of tubular work pieces mm bore-diameter 14 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

15 Technical data type NDG pipe driver L3 L L2 L1 D cat. no. type morse D L L1 L2 L3 a chisel for bore-ø taper pcs from to NDG 0/ NDG 0/ NDG 10/ NDG 20/ NDG 10/ NDG 20/ Technical data type NDG drive cone exchangeable L1 L cat. no. type D d2 L L1 a chisel for bore-ø pcs from to NDG 35/ NDG 90/ D d2 Technical data type AND arbor L4 MK L3 L2 L1 d2 D cat. no. type morse D d2 L1 L2 L3 L4 taper AND 35/ M AND 35/ M AND 35/ M NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 15

16 Drive Pins Chise SL/SR/NV Type SB/FSB/FFB chisel SL/SR/NV Drive pin for torque transmission onto work piece for soft/green tooling NV bi-directional SR CCW SL CW NV bi-directional SR CCW SL CW SR/counterclockwise/M3 SL/ clockwise/m4 (view from tailstock to face driver) l3 D3 l2 D2 l1 D1 types 01 and 11 with chisel SL and SR are double chiselled Drive pins with chisel SL for tooling direction M4 cat. no. clamping Ø chisel length for cat. no. clamping Ø chisel length for D1 D2 D3 l1 l2 l3 type D1 D2 D3 l1 l2 l3 type SB FSB FSB FFB FFB SB FSB FFB SB FSB FFB SB SB 2 FSB 11 FFB SB FSB 2 FFB 2 FSB 3 FFB 3 FSB 35 FFB SB FSB 4 FFB SB FSB FFB SB SB FSB 55 FFB 55 FSB 6 FFB 6 FSB 7 FSB 75 FSB 8 FSB NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

17 Drive pins with chisel SR for tooling direction M3 cat. no. clamping Ø chisel length for cat. no. clamping Ø chisel length for D1 D2 D3 l1 l2 l3 type D1 D2 D3 l1 l2 l3 type SB FSB FSB FFB FFB SB FSB FFB SB FSB FFB SB SB 2 FSB 11 FFB SB FSB 2 FFB 2 FSB 3 FFB 3 FSB 35 FFB SB FSB 4 FFB 4 Drive pins with chisel NV for rotating direction M4 and M3 cat. no. clamping Ø chisel length for cat. no. clamping Ø chisel length for D1 D2 D3 l1 l2 l3 type D1 D2 D3 l1 l2 l3 type SB FSB FSB FFB FFB SB FSB FFB SB FSB FFB SB SB 2 FSB 11 FFB SB FSB 2 FFB 2 FSB 3 FFB 3 FSB 35 FFB SB FSB 4 FFB SB FSB FFB SB SB FSB 55 FFB 55 FSB 6 FFB 6 FSB 7 FSB 75 FSB 8 FSB SB FSB FFB SB SB FSB 55 FFB 55 FSB 6 FFB 6 FSB 7 FSB 75 FSB 8 FSB NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 17

18 Drive Pins KV-HS cross-serrated and coated for hard turning operation Type SB/FSB/FFB KV-HS Drive pin for torque transmission onto work piece for hard tooling l3 D3 l2 D2 l1 D1 cat. no. clamping Ø chisel length for D1 D2 D3 l1 l2 l3 type SB SB 0 FSB 01 FFB SB 1 FSB 0 FFB FSB FFB SB SB 2 FSB 11 FFB SB FSB 2 FFB 2 FSB 3 FFB 3 cat. no. clamping Ø chisel length for D1 D2 D3 l1 l2 l3 type FSB 35 FFB SB FSB 4 FFB 4 FSB 45 FFB SB FSB FFB SB SB FSB 55 FFB 55 FSB 6 FFB 6 18 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

19 Drive Pins FV Diamond serrated and diamond embedded Type SB/FSB/FFB FV diamond Drive pin for torque transmission onto work piece for hard tooling for higher friction coefficient and higher tool life of drive pin l3 D3 l2 D2 l1 D1 cat. no. clamping Ø chisel length for D1 D2 D3 l1 l2 l3 type SB SB 0 FSB 01 FFB SB 1 FSB 0 FFB FSB FFB SB SB 2 FSB 11 FFB SB FSB 2 FFB 2 FSB 3 FFB 3 cat. no. clamping Ø chisel length for D1 D2 D3 l1 l2 l3 type FSB 35 FFB SB FSB 4 FFB 4 FSB 45 FFB SB FSB FFB SB SB FSB 55 FFB 55 FSB 6 FFB NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 19

20 Drive Pins Chisel Carbide full carbide/carbide inserts Drive pin for torque transmission onto work piece for tooling of high-tensile-strength materials Typ SB/FSB/FFB chisel carbide SR SL NV CCW CW bi-directional type 01-3 made of full carbide, model A D3 l3 type 35-6 with carbide inserts, model B l3 l3 SR CCW SL CW D3 D1 Drive pins with chisel carbide SL for tooling direction M4 cat. no. clamping length for Ø type D1 D3 l3 model A model B Drive pins with chisel carbide SR for tooling direction M3 cat. no. clamping length for Ø type D1 D3 l3 model A model B Drive pins with chisel carbide NV for tooling direction M3/M4 cat. no. clamping length for Ø type D1 D3 l3 model A Changeable inserts for type 35-6, model B cat. no. changeable parts carbide insert set screw for fastening of carbide insert Drive Pins are supplied with carbide inserts. Further clamping-ø of drive pins upon request. 20 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

21 Center Pins SB/FSB for face driver SB/FSB with movable center pin cat. no. type center d2 l Ø SB/FSB SB/FSB SB/FSB SB/FSB SB/FSB SB/FSB SB/FSB SB/FSB SB/FSB SB/FSB SB/FSB SB/FSB FSB FSB FSB FSB Type SB/FSB center pin l l d2 Center Pins FFB/ FFBH for face drivers FFB/FFBH with fixed center Type FFB/ FFBH tool-steel or carbide A fig.: center pin with carbide inserts A d8 d4 d8 d4 d2 cat. no. cat. no. type d2 d4 center d8 tool-steel carbide Ø FFB FFB FFB FFB FFB FFB FFB FFB FFB FFB FFB FFB NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 21

22 Drive Pins and Center Pins of Special Design for various work piece surfaces and clamping conditions we design and manufacture a variety of drive pins and center pins of special design Sample of special design type SB/FSB 1 2 cylindrically set-down tooling clearance for cutting tools inside set-down: clearance for center pin shortened length of chisel: ideal load of chisel l1 Sample of special design type FFB l1 center Ø NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 1.1

23 Data Sheet for Requesting an Offer: name of company: Mr./Ms.: phone: fax: data of work piece: x L data of machine: size of spindle = possibly size of taper in spindle = maximum force of clamping cylinder F S [N] = tooling direction of spindle M3 tooling direction of spindle M4 size of taper in tailstock = maximum tailstock force F R [N] = tailstock center sleeve live D d d2 tailstock center sleeve fixed face drivers/drive pins: face driver types: material = work piece soft carbide = largest tooling-ø D and length L = tooling-ø d and chamfer x = size of center-ø d2 [mm] and shape = drawing of work piece enclosed yes no SB/FSB movable center pin datum-point surface workpiece FFB fixed center pin datum-point center size tooling direction SR (M3) tooling direction SL (M4) bi-directional diamond tipped NV FV diamond embedded KV hard coated live centers: type RN/RNC/RNA/RNW = dead center: type FN/FNC/FNA/FNW = 1.1 NEIDLEIN Face Drivers 23

24 NEIDLEIN-SPANNZEUGE GmbH. Erlenbrunnenstraße Bodelshausen. Germany Phone +49 (0) / Fax +49 (0) / info@neidlein.de