A Conversation with Susan. Guilt, Shame & Abuse

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1 A Conversation with Susan Guilt, Shame & Abuse 00:04 Jon: Great to start with you, Susan. I intend for our meeting to be of some real value to you. I intend you to be happy with what got done and for it to make a significant improvement. So, what should I know or understand so that I can make that happen? 00:40 Susan: Well, I've been using for about two years. And I started using with my exboyfriend. He was using before me, and I really didn't know. 00:52 Jon: Using what? 00:53 Susan: Pills. 00:55 Jon: Opiates and stuff? 00:55 Susan: Yes. And I had gotten into them and we were keeping it a secret from our families. Every day after school, we would take trips to go get them, like every single day. In the summertime of last year, we had went to a fair and we got really intoxicated with alcohol and we mixed it with a lot of pills. So, we were really not all the way there. When we were at the fair, I ran into some friends and I wanted to hang out with them because I never really got to hang out with my friends when I was with this guy. And he had gotten mad at me and didn't want me to go with them. And he was threatening to throw all of my bags out of his car. My overnight bags and my shopping bags. And so I just went with them. I didn't really care. I didn't care about anything because I was intoxicated. I went with them and he was blowing up my phone and I could barely walk. So, my friends had to take me back to their hotel room, and I kind of fell asleep for a few minutes. 02:28 Susan: My friends went back to the fair and they said they'd be back later on. I came to and he was in the hotel room. And he was like, "Get up, your grandma wants you home right now." And I said, "No, she doesn't. She knows where I'm at and she knows I'm safe. You're lying." And he's like, "No, we ve got to go." And he starts pulling my legs off the bed. Pulling up my shirt off the bed, whatever. And then he starts slapping me because I wouldn't pay attention to him. I just told him to leave me alone and let me sleep. He kept calling me names, all kinds of names. So, I got up and I was super angry and I was like, "Okay. I'll go." And he had to push me in a chair because I couldn't walk down the stairs. So, we got into the car, and we were yelling at each other the entire way. We stopped at a gas station and he hit me in the face. It happened so quick. I didn't even know it was going to happen. He's never abused me before, but I felt like when 1

2 we start using, I felt like it was going to happen sooner or later because before we were using, we never fought. 03:41 Susan: So, I knew it was coming, but I didn't expect that to happen that night. And there was blood all over me. It was non-stop bleeding. And I got out of the car. I couldn't believe that he had did that. This lady told me to call 911. She couldn't take me to the hospital because she had kids with her. So, I called 911. He heard me talking to the cops, and he threw all my bags out of the car and left. I mean, he left me at the gas station. And then the cops showed up, and they had to file a police report, whatever. And they were taking pictures of me. Then I got sent in an ambulance to the hospital. And my phone, I looked at my phone and everyone was blowing me up. 04:37 Jon: And what? 04:38 Susan: Everyone was blowing my phone up, like calling me and stuff. And it was from my mom and my dad and his mom. They were all calling me. And his mom called me, yelling at me and pretty much said like, "What did you do to my son? Why is he crying to me? What did you do to him?" I just said, "Your son just hit me in the face. I'm on my way to the hospital." And she just hung up on me. And I called Sandy, my mom, and she's like, "What's going on? Why is Richard calling me? What's going on? Why is he saying you're going crazy and all that?" And I told her what happened, and they came to the emergency room. And I found out that I broke my nose. And so after that, the next day I've lived with my grandma my entire life, and I didn't want to tell her because I was scared. So, my dad told her, and she just broke down crying and whatever. It made me sad, too. I was with this guy for almost two years. And he was my first boyfriend, my first love. And after that, I just really went downhill. And we went to court for it. I tried to put a restraining order on him, but it didn't go through because he had told the judge that I was hitting my face against the dashboard in the car and punching myself in the face. So, there was nothing I can do about it because there was no surveillance anywhere, and I didn't have no proof of him hitting me. So, it didn't go through and it just made me, like I don t know 06:21 Jon: I understand. 06:22 Susan: Yeah. I really went downhill. 06:25 Jon: And then how long ago is the event you're telling me about? 06:30 Susan: It was last year around summertime. 06:32 Jon: Okay. Yeah, you told me that. I'm sorry. 2

3 06:35 Susan: Yeah. And so then I had no way to get my pills because I was already kind of addicted to them and I found a number, our drug dealer's number in my phone. That guy we were going through every day after school and I called him and I pretty much start kind of like living with him. And in my right sort of mind I would never do that. And I went to college where this drug dealer lived. I was supposed to go... I had four scholarships, basketball scholarships, and I turned them all down and decided to go live with this guy where I went to school still, but I didn't go for basketball and that kind of... I regret it a lot till this day. And then, so this carried on like August until November. I was seeing this drug dealer and pretty much staying at his house. I wasn't going to classes or anything. I mean, I was, but I started off with good grades but I dropped, stopped going in February. 08:04 Susan: Then this drug dealer kind of kicked me out of his house because he had a different girlfriend. And that hurt me, too, because I didn't know where to get my pills. So, I knew this other guy from out of state that I used to talk to a long time ago, and we started talking and I kind of fell in love with him. And I went to see him on New Year's, and I thought he was in love with me, too. It seemed like it. And I found out I was pregnant about seven weeks later and I told him and he didn't believe me. And he basically talked me into having an abortion and I think about that every day, till this day. I think about it every morning when I wake up. And deep down inside, I wanted to have the baby, but he told me that we can't. 09:21 Susan: We can't because we're so far away from each other and it's just not going to work out. We talked about it for a week and he was supposed to come down, and come to see me. He lied to me and I found out that he was lying to me about it, and it just, it made me hopeful that he was coming to see me so we can talk about it and decide what we were going to do, but then he lied about it and then he just, out of nowhere, told me that, This wasn't meant to be and this is all a big mistake. You re too young to have a kid. I don't know how we're going to work this out. And I was going to keep the baby, but he really, really talked me out of it and that made me go downhill even more. And I stopped going to classes. I dropped out and I was still living in my dorm, though. I never told my family that I was out. Then, I start hanging out with the drug dealer again because the girlfriend was gone. 10:30 Susan: So, my family thought I was going to school. In reality, I was just living in the dorms and going to use. So, I had a boyfriend in February. I met this new guy. He was on the football team. We were talking from February to October. We saw each other from February to October. And I had told him that I had a problem like in April. I told him I had a pill problem because he noticed I was spending a lot of money. And he told me, if you want to be with me, I don't want you to be using. He was a good lookout for me. And he made me not want to use. But, when he went home for the 3

4 summer back to Georgia, I was going behind his back and using with the same drug dealer I was going to and I would be staying with him. 11:47 Susan: And so when this guy came back for school in August, he had found pill paraphernalia in my car and he saw text messages from my drug dealer, and he broke up with me. And I really, really liked this guy a lot. He kept me motivated. He made me want to do better and...then I went downhill again and I just...i went home for Christmas break and I spent two days with my family and I took off in my car, and packed all my stuff and left. And I just was using a lot every day, not a good month, and that's how I ended up here. But those three things, my first boyfriend breaking my nose, the abortion, and my ex-boyfriend that just recently broke up with me, those are the three main things that make me sad. Commentary: Susan has described the three things that have continued to cause sadness and preoccupation and she knows that I understand what they are. I go on to compliment her on how effectively she is giving me the information that will be useful in being of value to her. I then go right into giving her this different way of understanding and thinking about how mind works. 13:05 Jon: You did an amazingly good job of efficiently, effectively catching me up with everything that matters, so yay! We're off and running and I feel so good about that, and I'm delighted that I'm with you and that you came in to get some things cleared up. I want to give you quickly a way of thinking about how our minds work. First, let me go over how things work really well for a simpler life form. Zebra senses bring in data, Lion's coming! Zebra's brain makes zebra's body super strong, super motivated. It's on instantly when it's useful, snaps off as soon as it's not. A minute after the whole thing, you say to zebra, "My goodness, I am so glad you're okay! That thing came out of nowhere. Did you see the size of a lion?" And she says, "Susan, what lion?" See, for a zebra, if it's not happening, it doesn't exist. Our human minds take information in like a zebra's, but our human minds also store information. You can tell me the name of the high school you went to. You can tell me a couple of the subjects that they taught. How do you know? Because that info in storage can be accessed. Make sense? 14:52 Susan: Yes. 14:52 Jon: Our minds create information. That's how people can write novels. And our minds attach meaning to things. But this is significant, you see. You might see something go on, and this gal standing right next to you looking at the same thing. She says, "Oh. What cowardice!" And maybe you saw the same thing and you just say to her, "Well, I think it's courage." And you know people see the same thing and see completely different things all the time, and that's because there are different lenses, but then people think that what they're seeing through the lens is what's actually there, but 4

5 it's actually filters that are there because of other experiences and other meanings and other experiences and other meanings. And so, I can tell you, from listening to you, a couple of things about you. One thing is, for sure, your mind is hardwired fine. 15:54 Jon: Now, how could I tell you that already? Because when you sat down with me, you immediately began to give me only valuable information, without any extraneous information, and did so in a very efficient way. And as soon as you sat down with me, you put me at ease so that I began to feel like safe and I relaxed right away. You can't do both of those things if you're mind isn't hardwired fine. So, a hardwiring we don't have to worry about. With the things that you've been through, the way info is being processed is actually better than the average. Better than average, though, for you isn't so much good enough. So, if I said to you, "It's better than normal," you'd say "Well, glad you think so, but it ain't optimal." Does that make sense? 17:00 Susan: Yes. 17:01 Jon: So, all there is for us to do We don't have to do anything to you. It's not about you. There is nothing broken in you. All we need to do is to clear the way that mind has been processing information because it's been processing information in a way that's designed to cause you to do things that don't actually need to be done. What happens is, things that happen don't go into us. If you take a picture of an elephant, there is not an elephant in the camera. But if we think and use our camera analogy, let's say our mind brings things into our senses, normal resolution, but if it's disturbing, it flips immediately to what we could call supersonic, high-def resolution. 18:11 Jon: So, think about a piece of data, normal, figuratively speaking, size of grain of salt, but now, disturbing, it swells up to a size of pumpkin. And then meaning gets attached to it and the more disturbing, the more distortion. Now, we've got a giant pumpkin. And what mind wants to do is take the info that has come in and move it through and into storage where you could tell me the name of your high school, but you don't get confused about whether you're in high school while you're telling that. But what happened is, these glops of data got stuck in a tube. That's not a problem with the processor. It's a problem if you put an avocado pit in your garbage disposal unit. You know, it gets stuck. 19:13 Jon: But I can tell you, for you, things are in good shape. So, all we have to do is get the glop down the drain. We don't have to rebuild anything. Kind of like her drain is stuck and she says, "Do we have to redo the whole kitchen? Do I need to get new cabinets?" And you say, "Sweetheart, no, but do you have any Drano?" So, stuff will just flush if the structure is fine. Does that make any sense to you? 5

6 19:51 Susan: Yeah. 19:53 Jon: You've got so many cool cards in your hand. When we get things tuned up and updated, it's like going to be amazing because there's a bunch of way good stuff, but some of the data got dumped. Does it make some sense? 20:23 Susan: Yes. 20:24 Jon: So, let's start by creating a design, like an abstract design, like modern art, doesn't look like anything. We're going to create a design representing what has been problematic in the way that mind has been processing information, where it's sort of been glopped and stuck, we make up a design for that. Not for what you've been feeling, but for the data read below consciousness that's been causing all the feelings and thoughts. So if we made up a design...one gal told me for her, it looked... She said it looked like jagged and bright. But another gal told me for her it was twisted and dark. If we created a design representing what's been going on with the way the data has been processed, is it more...would it have colors or just shades, as you see it? Make up the design. Does it have colors or shades? Commentary: The baseline visual metaphor is representing, not the feeling and not what happened, but the way that the brain has been reading data outside of conscious awareness that s been causing the preoccupation that we re looking to clear. 21:27 Susan: Colors. 21:27 Jon: Has some colors, doesn't it? What's the predominant color? 21:32 Susan: Pink. 21:33 Jon: Pink? 21:34 Susan: Yeah. 21:34 Jon: Okay. So, we're done with that. That's representing our starting point, isn't it? We're done with that. Here's what's going on for me. I had listened hard and careful while you were talking. I don't know whether you could tell, but I was. At the same time, I began seeing what, at the highest level, is intended for you. There, I'm seeing you with the pipe flushed, with mind updated, cleared, rebooted, refreshed, so that your brain only entertains what has actual value. Value to have done, value to have done. 22:16 Jon: So, there's a plane that's going to Detroit. You have no desire to be in 6

7 Detroit. Somebody says, "Well, why don't you hop on that plane so that you can enjoy a first-class seat?" And you say, "Well, it doesn't appeal to me to be on a first-class seat to someplace I don't want to be." "Well, don't you want to know what movie's playing?" "Not so much. I would if I was wanting to be there." 22:40 Jon: So, I see you with your brain redone so that it only entertains what has value, and value means value to have done. So, sometimes it has been like a craving or an interest in using, but that's because it seemed like it would be appealing to do it, but it doesn't seem like it would be appealing to have done it. 23:09 Susan: Right. 23:10 Jon: And so, when things get cleared, if it ain't appealing to have done, it isn't appealing to do. Make sense? 23:19 Susan: Yes. 23:20 Jon: There we go. So I'm seeing you then, as mind is cleared and refreshed and rebooted, all of your power is then available, and you got a whole lot of power. And this is the intention, right? I'm seeing you where 100% of your humor is available, 100% of your passion, 100% of your creativity. 100% of your wisdom, and where all the gunk you've been through becomes wisdom that you've acquired making you strong and clear as you move forward. Does that sound okay? 24:03 Susan: Yeah. 24:03 Jon: So, you're good with my plan for you, that means, guess what? We have the same vision. We have the same purpose, we have the same intention and already our energy is moving together. You know when energy moves together, it expands. Our minds are quite responsive to symbols. Let's create a symbol using any kind of wild bird, wild animal, that would represent what we both now intend for you. What wild bird, what wild animal would be the one that would be inspirational for where we're going for you? Commentary: I have created a shared intention and suggest that with that shared intention there s an energy coming between us that s building that will be fueling the shift that s underway. It s about what s being said, but it s also about the way it s being said the excitement, the joining together of intentions that do cause a building energy toward the shared intention. I ve separated what it is that has happened from the connection we have at the moment from what it is that is intended for her. 24:48 Susan: Eagle? 7

8 24:48 Jon: An eagle is soaring and flying way smart. She's not trying to beat her wings faster than a sparrow, is she? But she knows how to just like align with all the powers so she gets like taken where she's going, almost. And she's completely, totally focused and only has interest in what actually has value for her. So that's a beautiful symbol for you, really powerful symbol. Make sense? 25:23 Susan: Yes. 25:24 Jon: So, our energy continues coming together. I would like to show you a couple of things with energy that I think you'll find interesting. Would it be okay? 25:36 Susan: Yes. 25:36 Jon: What I'm going do is adjust your hand and indicate a spot, then I'll ask you to look at the spot while I talk with you for a few seconds. Then I'll ask you to close your eyes. Then I'll talk with you for just a few more seconds, then I'll ask you to open your eyes and then I'll ask you to tell me what you noticed during those few moments. So, slide your chair real close because I ve got to do it with your hand like that. Good. Put both feet flat on the floor, with elbow on the arm of chair, just duplicate what I'm doing, let me just turn you a little bit. Good, so hand falls like that. I adjust it to here. I want you to look at the spot I just touched and don't look away from that spot. 26:20 Jon: Now, there is a vibration that's going on all the time. But what's interesting is that people usually aren't aware of that vibration. Next, close your eyes. Your eyes are closed, and you don't see your hand and yet you know exactly where it is and you even know the exact spot that you had looked at. Next, you open your eyes once again. Look at me, and tell me what did you notice in terms of thought in those few seconds. 26:56 Susan: I thought about my future, about having my grandma there. 27:00 Jon: Nice, huh? So, like this and like this, close. Eyes are closed. In just a moment, you'll feel my finger touch the back of your hand and when you do, you'll know where it is and you'll know how it feels. You know exactly where my finger is, and you know exactly how it feels. In a moment, I'll lift my finger from your hand, and you'll know where it was. And you'll know how it felt. In fact, it's almost as if you can continue to feel it. And you remember I spoke about vibration and mentioned that it happens all the time, but there's a really good news and the good news is that as I've mention vibration, vibration has increased, already showing that your mind, when there are certain criteria that have been met, is really wonderfully responsive and that's really good news because that's about 8

9 mind responding to what we're intending for you, which, of course, we've represented with soaring eagle. Once again, just take your time. When you're ready, you open your eyes. Perfect. Tell me, what did you notice in terms of thought in those few moments? 28:28 Susan: I'm going back to school. Commentary: The accelerator with the shared intention have caused her mind to begin to bring things to her mind that would have value to have done. That s exactly what we ve asked for and that s what mind has come up with when it has brought to her attention the thought of going back to school. 28:32 Jon: Yes. And what was the feeling like as you were noticing those thoughts? 28:37 Susan: Excited. 28:38 Jon: So, now turn toward me. Sit up like military school, sit up like I am. Good, like a handshake, but to here. You look at this spot here, right there. Don't look away. So, you can see my hand out of the corner of your eye. Like here it is, hi. And then my hand begins moving in toward yours. And what's interesting is you begin to notice an energy as my hand is near yours and you can feel it, but you can also see your hand moving in response to that energy. It's moving and it's drawing in. Notice how it's drawing into the energy. It's moving in closer and closer to mine, moving in. And then as it continues moving on its own, your eyes close and rest. And then when your hand touches my hand and then presses my hand, you'll feel my finger touch your arm. But then what's interesting is that when I tap your forehead, the arm becomes loose and falls on my finger just like liquid lead. 30:00 Jon: One, two, tap and fall and fall and notice the difference. Completely different than before. In fact, your arm has become so loose like liquid that it's not like anybody else's arm. I could throw it in the air and it would fall back down like an iron ball, you see. And it's then loose and limp. And if I tap on the shoulder down to the wrist, it gets looser and falls more and falls more and falls more. But the really good news is that as arm is becoming like liquid, then the other arm is, too. So, that other arm just as loose as this arm. You'll notice in a moment when I lift it, it's very different than lifting anybody else's arm. It's just like lifting a heavy liquidy weight that when I drop, it just plops down. 31:06 Jon: But notice that as the arm just plops down, that your neck releases and becomes even still much looser and easier as everything just falls. There it goes. And falls, there it goes. And falls, falls, falls, falls. And you know that one thing builds on another so each process we engage in is going to become more powerful. Think about next time, even faster, just gliding, 9

10 floating, falling, sinking down toward even more peace and ease and comfort. That's it. Now, real slow up and then really fast down. Really slow up till finally eyes can open. Good job. And what were you sensing within you during those few moments? 32:42 Susan: I was just picturing nature. 32:47 Jon: What was the feeling within you as you were doing that? 32:51 Susan: Relaxing. Happy. Commentary: It is so much easier to create desired change in someone s future if you create an experience immediately of relief and excitement and happiness and use that as the platform to launch what will be happening in the future. 32:52 Jon: Yes, beautiful. Okay, we're on the way, aren't we? Now, look back at the design that you saw when you started. Remember that design? And what does that look like now? 33:05 Susan: Heart, 33:06 Jon: Different, isn't it? 33:07 Susan: Yeah. 33:07 Jon: Yeah. Do you know where the Adirondacks are? 33:13 Susan: No. 33:14 Jon: Way upstate New York in the mountains. Super cold. The winter like super, super cold. And I was in a house a guy had built there and he had this thermometer, like a circular thermometer, but it could give the reading of what was happening outside the house. I know was outside because inside the house, this guy had gotten in the wood stove. And I don t know if you ve ever met somebody who hasn't a wood stove, but it's like, "Whoa, man, this wood can crank it up." And I'm sitting there saying, It's 88 degrees. And he's going, "But dude, we can crank it up." And I'm looking at this thermometer and it says 14 degrees but it's outside, but then it went 16, and then it went 21. So, I was seeing that it had become warmer, no doubt about that. The design you saw is an instrument that was giving a reading on what was going on below the level of conscious awareness where the thing was going on that was causing the feelings that were disturbing. We already see a response, which means there will be a still more significant response. Makes sense? 34:34 Susan: Yes. 10

11 34:38 Jon: So, I want you to use your amazing intelligence for a few moments to think like a real hard scientist, like a no-nonsense scientist. And then there has been some guilt and shame associated for you, hasn't there? A whole bunch of that, right? I want you to say these words. Say, "I should have been gooder than I was." 35:11 Susan: I should have been gooder than I was. 35:13 Jon: Now, all of the guilt rests on that sentence. If that sentence makes no sense, there will be no guilt. Does that make sense? 35:25 Susan: Yeah. 35:26 Jon: Now say, "And I could have been gooder than I was." 35:30 Susan: And I could have been gooder than I was. 35:31 Jon: And you can't believe you should've been unless you believe you could've been, right? 35:35 Susan: Yes. 35:37 Jon: So, the could've been supports the should've been and the should've been has supported all of the guilt that has been making you feel bad because most of its been about feeling bad, not feeling good about yourself and feeling ashamed of things you did or didn't do, hasn't that? Am I right on that? 35:55 Susan: yes. 35:56 Jon: Okay. You'll meet people who think guilt is important in order for people to not do bad things. It's not important for that and it doesn't work. Other people will tell you, "Well, guilt promotes self-improvement." So, you ve got to remember to feel bad about what you did in order to do better? Doesn't work. Doesn't work. Does it make sense? 36:24 Susan: Yes. 36:25 Jon: So, would it be all right with you if all the guilt was gone and your brain was just fully present? 36:32 Susan: Yeah. 36:33 Jon: I'm not asking you how, we are going to get there. I'm just saying, is it okay because I don't want you coming around tomorrow saying, "Alright, you ve got to give me all the guilt back." because we got rid of it, we got 11

12 rid of it, it's obliterated, it's in the shredder. We can't get it back out. You okay with that? Okay. So, all the guilt has been based on one sentence. What was the sentence? "I should have been gooder." Say it. "I should have been gooder than I was." 37:09 Susan: I should have been gooder than I was. 37:09 Jon: Okay. As a scientist, similar isn't the same as identical, right? Not the same. So you, as a scientist, are told something is similar, do you think it's identical? No. Good job. Think of something you did earlier today, some little inconsequential thing. Just don't tell me what it was. Got one? 37:38 Susan: Oh, I have got... 37:39 Jon: You think of something you did earlier today. It doesn't matter what it was, could be just a little thing. Could have sipped tea, said hi to somebody. Got it in mind? Don't tell me what it is. But you know what it is, okay. As a scientist, if I was identical to the way that you were at that moment, I would have done and had to do exactly what you did at that moment. If I had the same brain, same brain waves, same past history, same body, same situation, I would have done exactly the same thing. Do you agree? 38:25 Susan: Yes. 38:27 Jon: So, there was a time when you were a little girl and you did something. Remember something you did when you were little. One day, one time. Remember? What did you do? 38:41 Susan: Lemonade stand. 38:42 Jon: You got it. So, if I had been exactly like you, I would have done exactly what you did at exactly the same second, wouldn't I? Scientifically. 38:55 Susan: Yes 38:56 Jon: Okay. So, at every moment of your life, if I had been exactly the way you were, wouldn't I have had to do exactly what you did? Watch. If I was exactly like you were earlier today, wouldn't I have had to do the exact same thing? 39:16 Susan: Yes. 39:17 Jon: Yes. Scientifically it makes sense though, doesn't it? Brain cell for brain cell. 39:21 Susan: Yeah. 12

13 39:22 Jon: Chemical, chemical, electric, electric, same body, same history, same thing. Not similar. Identical. If I was identical, wouldn't have I done the exact same thing? 39:31 Susan: Yes. 39:31 Jon: At the exact same second? And earlier in life, do with a lemonade stand. In fact, every entire moment of your life, I would've had to do exactly like you did, if I was exactly like you were. Which isn't like you are, but is like you were. So, if I was the way you were at those moments, I would have done exactly what you did at those moments, yes? Earlier today, when you did the thing that you remember that I don't know what it is, but you do, you, of course, were exactly the way you were at the moment you did it. You were the way you were, obviously, right? If I was the way you were, I would've had to do exactly what you did, wouldn't I? You were the way you were so you had to do exactly what you did, didn't you? And the same thing with the lemonade stand and the same thing with every other moment of your life. So, there wasn't ever a moment that you could've done anything different than you did. Scientifically, you know if something exists there was a cause. Not a purpose, I don't mean there's a good reason for everything. I mean there's a cause, a scientific cause. 40:45 Jon: Sometimes we might know the cause, sometimes we might not know the cause. But we know if something happened, there absolutely was a cause. And if there was a cause, it couldn't have not happened. Makes sense? So, nothing could have not happened, could it? As scientists. 41:03 Susan: Yeah. 41:04 Jon: Okay. It s not how they train children, is it? But as scientists, you get it, right? Okay. So, now that you get it, I'm going to say things and you stay a scientist and I mean a hard ass scientist. So, I'm going to say things that to you, as a scientist, are going to seem ridiculous. And every time I do, I want you to respond to me by saying these words. I want you to say, "That's ridiculous." But I want you to say it impatient, loud, like you have no tolerance for stupidity. Okay? So, with the parents that you had, you should be a nine year old overweight Irish boy. 41:57 Susan: That's ridiculous. 41:58 Jon: You should be a large pink mailbox. 42:02 Susan: That's ridiculous. 42:04 Jon: You should have been much meaner than you were. 42:09 Susan: That's ridiculous. 13

14 42:10 Jon: You should have been very interested only in ping pong, nothing else. 42:18 Susan: That's ridiculous. 42:19 Jon: You should have been an opera singer when you were seven. 42:24 Susan: That's ridiculous. 42:25 Jon: You should have been much better than you were. You should have been much better than you were. What's the answer? 42:35 Susan: That's ridiculous. 42:37 Jon: Go ahead. Give it a little bit more out of that, "that's ridiculous". I mean you should have been much better than you were. 42:41 Susan: That's ridiculous. 42:43 Jon: Or you should have been gooder than you were. 42:45 Susan: That's ridiculous. 42:47 Jon: Two plus two is a billion. 42:49 Susan: That's ridiculous. 42:50 Jon: Two plus two is :56 Susan: That's ridiculous. Commentary: I m suggesting to Susan a new way of thinking. I m also telling her what to say and how to say it. Hence, I m not just telling her information, but causing ideas to move through her and be voiced by her. I m doing that in combination with causing altered states of consciousness through the accelerator process that joins to cause things to shift for her in a way that is rapid and powerful. 42:57 Jon: So, even though it's close, it's ridiculous, isn't it? 43:00 Susan: Yeah. 43:00 Jon: And the whole thing is ridiculous. And you shouldn't have done things that you did. 43:06 Susan: That's ridiculous. 14

15 43:07 Jon: You should have done things you didn't do. 43:09 Susan: That's ridiculous. 43:10 Jon: And you should have been an inch taller. 43:12 Susan: That's ridiculous. 43:13 Jon: With your feet just one inch shorter. 43:15 Susan: That's ridiculous. 43:17 Jon: And pink, nice pink skin. 43:19 Susan: That's ridiculous. 43:20 Jon: There you go. So, the whole thing becomes ridiculous, doesn't it? Look again at the design that we started with. Look at the design. What's it look like now? 43:35 Susan: Star. 43:37 Jon: That's way different, isn't it? 43:38 Susan: Yes. 43:41 Jon: Again, obviously, clearly, your mind has shifted. You have shifted your own mind inside. Make sense? 43:52 Susan: Yes. 43:52 Jon: Okay. One is, it's absolutely incorrect to think that you should have done anything different than you did. I don't care what the hell you did. It couldn't have not happened. Make sense? 44:07 Susan: Yes. 44:07 Jon: Two is, it's not a good idea to think things shouldn't have happened, or should have happened that didn't happen because that causes a preoccupation and an energy drain. And we're looking for your energy to be fully, totally present. Make sense? 44:24 Susan: Yes. 44:25 Jon: So, we have eagle and now star, coming together, all toward that. I'd like you to sit up really tall at the edge of the chair, move forward. Put your arm out like that in front, and in a moment, here's what's going to happen. 15

16 You're going to, with all of your strength, try to push my arm down and until I tap your head, and then arm melts, and you melt. Everything melts. Head melts, neck melts, shoulder melts, every thing melts, plunging all the way down to where star and eagle [whoosh]. Just vacuum anything left of this thing. Make sense? 45:15 Jon: It's kind of like, have you ever seen a blackboard get erased? We've already done that, but what we're going to do next is, now think about wet cloth going over the blackboard, and now we really get it out. Make sense? So, close your eyes and here we go. Show me how strong you are. Push, push, push, push, melt, melt, melt. That's right. Arm becomes like liquid. There you go. Back, body, everything. Loose, loose, loose, loose. I'm going to lift this arm and just throw it over here. Notice your whole body just follows it. It's just like a weight. And things just pour and fall and fall. And then I'm going to tap the back of your neck because something that was stuck there, some feeling, some thought that was stuck there, when I press there and release, is going to just fall out so that you melt even much, much deeper. Here, here it is. Here, breathe in, you're going to feel pressure, pressure, in, in, in, in, in, release. And things fall. Neck falls, head falls, shoulders fall. There you go. Neck, head, shoulders, there you go. Everything looser, there you go. And then, you shrug your shoulders up as high as they can shrug, higher, higher, higher, higher, higher and then they just collapse down and fall, fall, fall, fall, fall, fall, fall, fall, fall. Commentary: The stuckness that people experience is often experienced in the body, not just in thoughts. The cognitive therapist approaching it just in terms of thoughts is certainly able to contribute something of value, but if we can work directly on what s going on within her body and her experience of her body and how her body s feeling and releasing things that are stuck and tense and tight there, I think we can move things forward much more quickly. I believe by utilizing this process, it s possible to cause things to resolve and release that haven t even been consciously dealt with during the conversation. 46:49 Jon: That's it. Sit forward. There you go. My hands on your shoulders, shrug up as high as you can. Higher, higher, higher, higher, fall, loose. Notice no tension. Notice everything. Just falling, falling, falling, falling, falling. Your whole body is different than it was before. Notice how it sways. 47:12 Susan: Yes. 47:13 Jon: Head, jaw is loose and relaxed. Everything just easy, easy, easy, easy, easy. Slow, really slow, really slow. Finding your way back up, up, till finally eyes can open. Good job. Now, watch this. You were with this guy and he was all screwed up. There's definitely a screw loose in that mechanism. And he was somebody that you had been connected with, but then, like the screws got loose and he ended up punching you in the 16

17 48:13 Susan: Yes. face and breaking your nose. Remember it? 48:14 Jon: What is the feeling now as you recall it? It's not pushing the same button, is it? 48:21 Susan: Yeah, yeah. It's just different now. 48:24 Jon: Yeah. Think of it now as like reading some newspaper article. 48:30 Susan: Yeah. 48:31 Jon: About something that really didn't involve you. 48:32 Susan: Yeah. 48:34 Jon: Makes sense? 48:35 Susan: Yes. 48:35 Jon: Watch. I'm going to try to make you feel bad about it and notice that I won't be able to, okay? Ready? Well, this guy punched you in the face and that happened because you totally suck and you'll never amount to anything. What was your reaction to what I said? Commentary: By saying, I m going to try to make you feel bad, the fact that I say that I m going to try implies that I m going to fail. Also, when I say meanings mind attached I exaggerate and make it even worse. It seems like the exaggeration might make her feel worse, but because it becomes exaggerated and I m saying, You ll never amount to anything, it s experienced as ridiculous and, hence, eases her emotional response to it. 48:55 Susan: I want to punch you. [Chuckle] 48:58 Jon: Isn't that cool that you would laugh when I say that? 49:01 Susan: Yeah. 49:02 Jon: Because you wouldn't have laughed when you walked in, would you? 49:07 Susan: No. 49:08 Jon: Beautiful, beautiful, good job. Okay, that was one of them. Here's another one. In that situation, the way that the data was processed caused you to terminate that pregnancy. That's how that went. What's the feeling now? 17

18 49:27 Susan: I mean, I can always have new kids in the future. 49:33 Jon: Yes, but even more significantly, you could not have done that different. And any thought about how you should've is ridiculous because a 'should' needs a 'could' and there's nothing else you could have done. 49:51 Susan: Yeah. 49:52 Jon: And could I have done it any different than you if I was exactly like you were then? Nope. So, could you have? Nope. And notice now, it doesn't feel the way it did. Right? 50:04 Susan: Yeah, it doesn't feel... 50:06 Jon: Perfect. And then there is that one, that one, and what's the third one? 50:13 Susan: My ex-boyfriend... 50:17 Jon: Yes. And you were kind of missing him and stuff? 50:22 Susan: Yeah. 50:23 Jon: You see, sometimes when you buy something, it has like a shelf life. It doesn't mean it was the wrong one, it means that different things only last certain periods of time and sometimes you might connect with some guy and it's got a shelf life that is longer than the shelf life of your body. But other people you might connect with and you might have, the connection between the two of you has a shorter shelf life. That is as long as that thing lasted, it was useful when it was happening. It's not useful now. He no longer has the attributes that you were attracted to. 51:22 Jon: The attributes you were attracted to had a lot to do with how his mind was working and how he acted and reacted and treated you. You got the best out of that at the moments that that happened, but that is no longer, he's no longer somebody that's attractive or useful to you. Luckily, you're smart, athletic, and gorgeous. So, for you to have one guy gone It's like you're at the beach and you see this gal and she's really, really, really upset and you go up to her and you say, "Honey, what is the matter?" And she said, "Well, I had this handful of sand and then I didn't concentrate and it spilled." What do you tell her? Tell her, "Sweetheart, you are on the flipping beach. If you're going to be crying about something, don't let it be about missing sand. 52:39 Susan: Yeah. 52:41 Jon: It might have a problem here, but lack of sand isn't going to be it. All kinds of sand. All kinds. You'll have your pick of incredibly interesting guys. Your job is going be sorting through it. It's like there's a job ad out and you're 18

19 53:42 Susan: It does. the interviewer and, oh no, there's 1,896 applicants and that's just this week. It's like, Holy smokes, what can I do to screen through this thing? That's it with you with boys, sweetheart. That's never going to be an issue. This one, you know, it was okay and there it isn't. It's kind of like going on a movie. It's not bad if you went, but now the movie's over. Let's do something else. Maybe go to a different movie. Does that make any sense to you? Commentary: It s natural for people to feel that if romance hasn t lasted that it is tragic and it s useful to counter that way of thinking and the metaphor of losing a guy is like losing a handful of sand on the beach, there s an abundance of sand, there s an abundance of guys, is light and provides a very new way of thinking, which she is now open to because of the powerful connection that I have with her. That creates an openness to her easy thinking about things in this new way that I m describing. 53:43 Jon: Tell me what his first name is. 53:43 Susan: Justin. 53:44 Jon: Say 'Justin' 10 times in a row. 53:46 Susan: Justin, Justin. 53:47 Jon: And try to keep a straight face. 53:48 Susan: Justin, Justin. 53:49 Jon: But you won't be able to. 53:50 Susan: Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin. 53:55 Jon: I told you. 53:56 Susan: Yeah. 54:00 Jon: Yeah. Now, try to feel bad about Justin. 54:01 Susan: Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin. 19

20 Commentary: She feels bad in thinking about this guy and then I m getting her to think about him and say his name over and over. It s saying, go ahead and think about him, which should generate the bad feeling, but the way that it s done creates a silliness that is designed to make her having a bad feeling about it impossible. Hence, his name, which is him, no longer produces that sad feeling. 54:04 Jon: Right, and now try to feel bad about him. Just think about him and... 54:07 Susan: Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin, Justin. 54:11 Jon: Right. Now stop saying Justin and just think about him. Is there any bad feeling now? 54:18 Susan: No. 54:19 Jon: Yay! Don't you think? 54:21 Susan: Yeah. 54:22 Jon: Yes. So, slap. Like you're not a little wind, like you're a big strong gal, slap. Slap, slap. Come on. Okay. Now, slap. Come on. All right. We made it happen, huh? 54:43 Susan: Yeah. 54:44 Jon: Yeah. Check it out now. How's it feel within you? 54:50 Susan: Good. I feel different. I feel it's not on my mind. 54:56 Jon: Right. 54:58 Susan: I'm just thinking about good thoughts now. 55:00 Jon: Yeah. 55:02 Susan: And not so much on the past, but the future. Commentary: As it s possible to cause the transformation to take place right there in the meeting, this is such a different thing than working on a problem being different some time in the future with the notion that it will have to get worse before it gets better. Instead, we re looking to have a transformation take place right away so that that individual can experience feeling better right away. 55:05 Jon: Right. So, whenever you have a moment free, you replenish it by just 20

21 55:39 Susan: Yes. thinking eagle and star. Eagle or star. Every time you do any hygiene thing, wash your face, eagle, brush your teeth, star, comb your hair, eagle, star, take a shower, eagle, star. Not, you don't have to hold it. Just pop it in for a second, and you'll just keep moving and moving and moving in that direction. Make sense? 55:41 Jon: How did our meeting go for you today? 55:44 Susan: It was good. 55:44 Jon: Yeah. 55:45 Susan: Thank you so much. 55:46 Jon: My pleasure. You're amazing. You're a super fast learner. You're strong. You're beautiful. You're smart. I mean, how much do you want here? "Oh no, what am I going to do? I'm beautiful and I'm smart and I'm friendly. I'm interesting." So, you've got like a good hand and things went off track for a little while. Couldn't not have. I get how that happened, but now you're like right back on the road. Commentary: As I m suggesting that she s a fast learner, smart, strong and beautiful, all of these things connect, lift and energize her in moving forward. 56:21 Susan: Yes. 56:22 Jon: Okay? 56:22 Susan: Yeah. 56:23 Jon: Alright. 56:23 Susan: Thank you. 56:24 Jon: It was nice to be with you, sweetheart. 56:25 Susan: Nice to be with you too. 21