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1 MINUTES OF MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND HISTORIC REVIEW BOARD OF THE VILLAGE OF SAGAPONACK IN THE TOWN OF SOUTHAMPTON, COUNTY OF SUFFOLK AND STATE OF NEW YORK A meeting of the Architectural and Historic Review Board of the Village of Sagaponack was held at 3:00 p.m. on Friday, April 20, 2018 at 3175 Montauk Highway, Sagaponack, N.Y. The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Tom White with a flag salute. Present were Board Members Nick Martin, Emily Aspinall, Pingree Louchheim and Robert Barandes. Also present were Village Attorney Anthony Tohill, Building Inspector John Woudsma and AHRB Secretary Pat Arancio Remkus. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Chairperson White asked for a motion to approve the Minutes from the March 16, 2018 AHRB meeting. A motion was offered by Pingree Louchheim, seconded by Robert Barandes and unanimously approved. APPROVED BY COMMITTEE OF TWO The following applications were previously approved by the Committee of Two: NV Hamptons LLC 25 Potato Road Applicant proposes amendment to P#899 conversion of living space into a garage 494 Hedges LLC 494 Hedges Lane Applicant proposes amendment to Permit #978 Change chimney veneer from Lorraine brick to Connecticut fieldstone OLD BUSINESS NEW CONSTRUCTION Kevin Norden 1296 Town Line Road Applicant proposes construction of a two story single family residence with covered porch attached garage and pool house Chairperson White stated that it was requested that the applicant provide accurate renderings showing all of the elements with the improvements including the bluestone patios, a survey with the proposed only, to remove the corbelling from the chimney, to simplify the trim at the front elevation and to remove the radius at the front, to remove window corbelling at the 1 st FL rear elevation and to have some of the elements at the front elevation be brought back to either a colonial nature or of another nature so that there are not so many different elements and only one style of architecture. 1
2 Kevin Norden presented the application. Chairperson White stated that he understood that the bluestone patio went right up to the house to which Mr. Norden responded that was not correct. There is a deck off of the house with a step down to the bluestone patio, which is around the pool. Pingree Louchheim asked about the three windows with the white at the rear and Robert Barandes noted that they seem out of place and are out of context with the house. Emily Aspinall commented that she believed that the applicant was asked to change those windows to which Mr. Norden responded no. Pingree Louchheim stated that she would like to see three proper windows over the back door instead of the three little windows in the white. Emily Aspinall stated that she also does not like the windows on the front and would prefer cedar. She also noted that the upper white windows at the rear are different. Nick Martin asked what material the white trim was to which Mr. Norden responded that it is Azek. Nick Martin noted that if you are looking at the front elevation above the front entry, the upper windows on either side of the central six over one, that scale of windows is very similar to the scale of the windows at the rear. If you look at the rear elevation the applicant has a four over one, eight over one and then four over one. The four over one scale is similar to the rear four window. There is precedent in the design. Pingree Louchheim commented that the windows on the rear are much narrower to which Nick Martin agreed, but noted they are similar, but not identical. He noted that at the rear the slider doors do not have any mullions and neither do the French doors on either side of the rear fireplace chimney and suggested adding mullions or four over one so that the scale would be more similar. After much discussion Nick Martin summarized the Board s requests as follows: match the three middle windows that are in the white band on the 2 nd FL and match them to the one window above, use center match cedar above the doors and not Azek and add muntins to the sliders. Nick Martin asked what the trim color was to which Mr. Norden responded that it will be Benjamin Moore dove white. Chairperson White asked for a motion to approve the application subject to dove white trim, central highest window to change to match 2 nd FL central windows and add muntins to sliders. A motion was offered by Nick Martin, seconded by Pingree Louchheim and unanimously approved. NEW BUSINESS AMENDMENT/ADDITION / RENOVATION Anthony Woods 312 Sagg Main Street Applicant proposes amendment to P#946 add window at 2 nd FL, add chimney to barn, changes to barn fenestration, minor changes to originally approved master chimney 2
3 Nick Martin recused himself from this application and left the room as his architectural firm represents the applicant. Amelia Steelman of Martin Architects presented the application. She stated that they are proposing to add a double hung window on the 2 nd FL of the main house as shown on A204 noting that it is at the rear of the house and will not be visible. She also noted that they are proposing to increase the width of the master chimney at the rear of the main house by 5 of the originally approved. Emily Aspinall asked if there is a stone cover over the barn chimney to which Ms. Steelman responded yes, it will be the same as the other chimneys. Ms. Steelman explained that the white wall and sliders will be removed from the east side of the barn and two double hung windows will be added on the north end of the east elevation. She also noted that they will be adding the chimney back on the barn. Chairperson White asked for a motion to approve the application. A motion was offered by Pingree Louchheim, seconded by Emily Aspinall and unanimously approved. DEMOLITION 55 Farmview LLC 55 Farmview Drive Applicant proposes demolition of a two story single family residence with attached two car garage, covered porch, 1st and 2nd Floor unroofed decks attached shed Brian Mac and Jeff McBride of Birdseye VT, architects, presented the application. They provided photos of the existing structure. Village Attorney Tony Tohill stated let the record reflect that the applicant has submitted a March 15, 2018 abstract report from All Area Abstract LLC, Lexington Avenue, New York, stating among other things that the owner of record of the subject premises, 55 Farmview LLC, by a deed from Veronica Hackett dated November 16, 2017 and that there are no mortgages on the property. The Board had no issues with this application. Chairperson White asked for a motion to approve the application. A motion was offered by Robert Barandes, seconded by Emily Aspinall and unanimously approved. NEW CONSTRUCTION 55 Farmview LLC 55 Farmview Drive Applicant proposes construction of a two story, single family dwelling with attached two car garage, covered porches, unroofed decks and pool house 3
4 Brian Mac and Jeff McBride of Birdseye Design, Richmond, Vermont presented the application. Mr. Mac stated that he is the principal architect and Mr. McBride is the project architect. Mr. Mac stated that they are proposing a new single family residence. He stated that his client was keen on the agricultural history of Sagaponack and presented them with the idea that they would like a nod to Sagaponack history. Given that they are from Vermont they have a keen knowledge and understanding of that landscape and the history of barns. The project is inspired by the simple form of a barn, a simple gable and it is being express is a minimalist way. There is one material. They are presenting a project that is wood clad on all elevations and the material is a corral board reclaimed from Montana that adds a very textural flavor. Chairperson White asked if it is tongue and groove to which Mr. McBride responded that they are using it in a variety of different ways. There is open slatted wood cladding that has multiple layers of the same material. It is one of those projects that comes down to the detailing to get the richness out of the overall effect of what they are doing because it is a monotone flavor of the same patina. They are trying to create something familiar with inspiration from the past. Mr. Mac stated that the house is sited in the same linear east/west axis and location as the original house and with the same massing. He stated that this is a flag lot with hedges on all sides and it is not visible from the road and noted that the renderings do not show the hedges or the perimeter trees on the neighbor s lots. Mr. Mac provided a sample of the wood to which Pingree Louchheim asked if it was true to color to which Mr. Mac replied yes. The boards will be butted together so as not to cut any of the edges to keep the boards as whole and original as possible. In order to get an even surface, the back side of the boards are planed down. Pingree Louchheim asked if they will age lighter to darker to which Mr. Mac responded that they will weather lighter over time. Mr. McBride stated it is a mix of primarily fir and occasionally pine with no treatment that will be left to weather. Most of the clients do not want to maintain the exterior of the house. Mr. McBride provided a lighting analysis. Chairperson White stated that the hedges should not be included in the night illumination so that we can see the degree of light illumination from the glass noting that the AHRB has had applications that use treated glass that limits light illumination. Mr. McBride stated that in the aerial photo there are a number of large trees on the surrounding properties in addition to the continuous hedge on our lot. He noted that the percentages of glass on each elevation are as follows: east elevation is 1.53%, the north elevation is 16.2%, the south elevation is 38.9% and the west elevation is 36.8%. Robert Barandes stated that he understands the concept of respect to our history and just looking at the material choices, it is a wonderful choice. If this was an existing barn and one side is stripped down and glass is put in, he does not believe the Board would approve it. Emily Aspinall asked if the proposed house will be the same length as the existing house to which Mr. McBride responded yes. 4
5 Nick Martin stated that this is a well put together set of drawings and the materials are interesting. He asked when you are approaching the house, which elevation will you face the parking to which Mr. Mac responded that it is elevation A204. Nick Martin noted that the house is a flag lot upon a flag lot and the only public view of this property is from the direct neighbors. He state that there is only one neighbor that has a pretty good view of the house noting that our role is to see from those vantage points. He is not sure that we are seeing the house properly in the night illuminations. He also stated that the east elevation seems a bit brutal as an entry elevation. The distance to the front door is significant. Mr. Mac responded that the garage door is the east elevation and that is how they would enter the house. Emily Aspinall asked if they would consider low emission glass to which Mr. McBride responded that they will be using low e glass so the glass is not clear, but has some tint. Nick Martin stated that on the elevations A204, the lighting percentages are listed and the numbers are fairly small. Nick Martin stated that one neighbor is approximately 1,000 feet away and the other is approximately 800 feet away. Chairperson White asked for night illuminations without the hedges so that we have a clearer view of what the neighbors will see. Nick Martin asked for perspectives of the views from the two neighboring houses and the landscape plan. Mr. Mac asked what specifically the Board is looking for in the renderings to which Nick Martin explained that the Board is interested to see the scale and the amount of light in the evening and the general look of the structure in order to get the actual view from that perspective. Chairperson White asked that they provide information about the light emitting glass they are proposing. Chairperson White asked for a motion to adjourn the application to the May 18, 2018 meeting at 3:00 PM. A motion was offered by Nick Martin, seconded by Robert Barandes and unanimously approved. The applicants were advised to provide the requested items no later than May 11, OLD BUSINESS CONT D NEW CONSTRUCTION TLDH Co., LLC 802 Town Line Road Applicant proposes amendment to Permit #882 new design of proposed main house Present on behalf of the applicant were architect Mehran Talaie, attorney David Kirst and applicant s friend, Alyssa Weinitk. Mr. Talaie presented in part photo renderings filed with the Board prior to today and in part photo renderings presented for the first time today. The Board expressed the following views: a) this application has not been presented in a persuasive or efficient manner and applicant should be mindful that the amount of time expended is unique and concerning; b) the residence as now proposed appears commercial, similar to office buildings in Southampton; c) this site is an entry point to the Village, meaning the public exposure of new construction 5
6 should not be out of character with the community; d) the Board continues to express its favorable view of the residence approved on August 19, 2016; and e) as submitted the Board, if asked for a decision on the merits, is unable to approve the present design renderings. Mr. Talaie advised the Board that he prepared other renderings in an effort to address prior Board comments but his client would not approve those renderings. After a lengthy discussion, Ms. Weinitk expressed to the Board that she did understand the Board's views and that applicant has not built the residence approved on August 19, 2016 because of expense. Ms. Weinitk advised she will report the Board's position to the applicant and communicate with the Board by the deadline for submissions for the May 18, 2018 meeting. The Board thanked Ms. Weinitk for her understanding and offer to assist. Chairperson White asked for a motion to adjourn the application to the May 18, 2018 meeting at 3:00 PM. A motion was offered by Robert Barandes, seconded by Pingree Louchheim and unanimously approved. SELECTION OF COMMITTEE OF TWO FOR MAY Chairperson White and Robert Barandes will be the Committee of Two for May. MOTION TO ADJOURN MEETING Chairperson White asked for a motion to adjourn the meeting. A motion was offered by Robert Barandes, seconded by Nick Martin and approved unanimously. TIME NOTED: 5:25 PM PATRICIA ARANCIO-REMKUS Secretary to Board 6
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