The Glades County Board of County Commissioners met on Monday, November 26, 2012 at 6:00 p.m. with the following Commissioners present:

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1 MINUTES OF THE GLADES COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS REGULAR MEETING ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 2012 AT 6:00 P.M. IN THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING ROOM, GLADES COUNTY COURTHOUSE, MOORE HAVEN, FLORIDA The Glades County Board of County Commissioners met on Monday, November 26, 2012 at 6:00 p.m. with the following Commissioners present: Donna Storter Long Paul Beck Russell Echols Tim Stanley Dennis Griffin Others present: Julie Mann Braddock, Administrative Secretary Richard Pringle, County Attorney Wendell Taylor, County Manager Joe Flint, Clerk of the Circuit Court Nancy Dean, Finance Director Sandra Brown, Chief Deputy Clerk Larry Hilton, Community Development Director Stuart Whiddon, Glades County Sheriff Holly Whiddon, Glades County Supervisor of Elections David Whidden, AIM Engineering Avant Brown, County Road Superintendent Dale Milita, Craig A. Smith & Associates Connie Vannasche, Craig A. Smith & Associates Tracy Whirls, Executive Director - Glades EDC Honorable Jack Lundy, County Judge Missie Barletto, AIM Engineering Gary Ritter, South Florida Water Management District Hugo Geistman, Glades County TDC Mark Morton, Lykes Bros, Inc. Land Manager Raoul Bataller, Hendry Glades Sunday News Gail Jones, Glades County Tax Collector Kelly Brantley, Judicial Assistant Pete Quasious, Audubon Society John Biggs, Glades EMS Mary Lois Biggs, Glades EMS Andrew Bowers, Seminole Tribe of Florida Crystal Drake, School Johnny Limbaugh, Florida Department of Transportation Lorie Ward, Glades County Tax Collector s Office Steve Dobbs, Donnie Watts, GCSO

2 John Ahern, City Council John Huysman, Glades County School Board Alfonsie Brown, Washington Park Homeowners Association 57 citizens CALL TO ORDER Attorney Pringle called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. He turned the floor over to Judge Jack Lundy to proceed with the Swearing in Ceremony. 1. Swearing In Ceremony (Judge Jack Lundy) Judge Lundy stated it is an honor that he gets to swear people in and it is a testament to what the United States is a Democracy. Judge Lundy recognized the following: Dr. Cary Pigman, newly elected State Representative; Dr. Pigman s assistant Brian Mielke; Andrew Bowers- Seminole Tribe of Florida; Joe Flint - retiring Clerk of Court; newly elected Clerk of Court Sandra Brown; Gail Jones - Tax Collector; Holly Whiddon - Supervisor of Elections; Sheriff Stuart Whiddon; newly elected Property Appraiser Lorie Ward; and former County Commissioner Sam Griffin who is the uncle of Dennis Griffin. Judge Lundy swore in Dennis Griffin, County Commissioner District 1, who was accompanied by Cayson, his grandson, and wife Beth Griffin. Dennis Griffin thanked everyone for turning out and stated that he as County Commissioner he would try to make the best informed decision that he could for the people of Glades County. Judge Lundy swore in Paul Beck, County Commissioner 3, who was accompanied by his wife, Emma Ruth Beck. Judge Lundy swore in Tim Stanley, County Commissioner District 5, who was accompanied by his mother, Patricia. Judge Lundy stated there would be a 10 minutes break for photographs. Attorney Pringle called the meeting back to order at 6:24 p.m. because there was not a Chair or Vice Chairman. PRAYER Commissioner Griffin gave the invocation. PLEDGE Commissioner Stanley led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. 2. Board of County Commissioners Organization (Pringle) Attorney Pringle stated the Board has used the nominee process in the past and explained that he would open the floor for nominations and any of the commissioners can make a nomination. He explained that when all nominations are made, a motion 2

3 and second would be needed to close the nominations. would need 3 or more votes to be elected as Chair. He stated that a nominee Commissioner Beck nominated Commissioner Echols as Chairman. Commissioner Stanley nominated Commissioner Storter Long. Attorney Pringle asked if there were any other nominations. There were no other nominations. Attorney Pringle asked for a motion to close nominations. ON MOTION of Commissioner Beck seconded by Commissioner Stanley the Board closed nominations for Chairman. Motion carried by 5-0 vote. Attorney Pringle asked for all commissioners in favor of Commissioner Echols to signify by saying aye. Commissioner Echols, Stanley and Beck voted aye. Attorney Pringle stated that Commissioner Echols was the Chairman effective immediately by a 3 to 2 vote. Chairman Echols asked for nominations for Vice Chairman. nominated Vice Chairman Storter Long for Vice Chair. Commissioner Beck Commissioner Stanley nominated Commissioner Beck. the nomination. Commissioner Beck declined ON MOTION of Commissioner Beck seconded by Commissioner Stanley the Board voted to close nominations for Vice Chair. Chairman Echols stated that Commissioner Storter Long is the Vice Chairman. AGENDA AMENDMENTS Commissioner Beck stated that Agenda Item #5, Personnel Issue, is listed as a single issue with his and Vice Chairman Storter s name listed. He stated that last Monday at 10:15 AM he gave a request to Michelle Lanier to place a personnel issue on the agenda and did not request to share an agenda item with Vice Chairman Storter Long nor did he ask that she be listed. Commissioner Beck asked that his personnel issue be separated and he would like it to read Personnel Issues. Vice Chairman Storter Long stated that she did not request that it be combined with Commissioner Beck s agenda item and would like her agenda item to be removed and placed at the end of the meeting. ON MOTION of Commissioner Beck seconded by Commissioner Griffin the Board agreed to amend the agenda by placing Commissioner Beck s agenda item as No. 5 and Vice Chairman Storter Long s as No. 14. PRESENTATIONS / AWARDS 3. FDOT 2013 Work Program Presentation (Johnny Limbaugh) 3

4 Johnny Limbaugh, Florida Department of Transportation, welcomed the new Commissioners. Mr. Limbaugh stated that FDOT asks the Board and staff to provide them with priorities for state and federal funding for transportation projects such as sidewalks, landscape projects, resurfacing and multi lane projects. He stated they also have the SCRAP and SCOP programs which are both matches and they work with the County s staff to identify the County s facilities that need assistance from DOT. Mr. Limbaugh stated they typically provide the opportunity for small counties to have an exemption from the match. Mr. Limbaugh stated the Board has a draft of the Tentative Work Program in their packets and will remain a draft until it is adopted by the Florida Legislature. The program becomes effective July 1 after it is adopted. This program runs from through Mr. Limbaugh stated that page 1 is a resurfacing project on Aspen Blvd which is funded at $964, in Fiscal Year Other resurfacing projects are: Birchwood Parkway, CR 720 (SCRAP) projected to start in June 2013, CR 721 Loop Road, 733, 78A, Kirby Thompson Road widening and resurfacing of existing lanes (SCOP). Mr. Limbaugh explained that SCRAP is basically to maintain existing facilities and SCOP will allow the road to be expanded, widened and shoulders to be added as a safety improvement. He stated the Lost Trail (Lake Okeechobee Scenic Trail) is a bike path and trail around the Rim Canal. Traffic signal reimbursements are to the City of Moore Haven for the signal on Hwy 27. A new project in the Program is the Elementary School sidewalk which will start design next year and be constructed in The Old Lakeport Road resurfacing project is scheduled for next year. SR 29 is also a new project which is a bridge rehab project at Lone Pine Creek and design is scheduled for and the repairs will be done in SR 78 resurfacing from Herbert Hoover Dike to the canal Boat Ramp will be next fiscal year for a total cost of $6.5 million. SR 78 from Canal Boat Ramp to the Okeechobee County line will be resurfaced in The Vance Whidden Park bike path will be constructed in The last project is adding the 5 th year funding for the Good Will Transit Program. Chairman Echols asked if there were any questions. There were none. Mr. Limbaugh asked for a letter of endorsement from the Board. Vice Chairman Storter Long asked if the Board requested the additional bike path in Vance Whidden Park. Mr. Limbaugh stated it was requested about 4 years ago. Commissioner Beck stated it was requested a few years ago and DOT had done part of the path and this was continuing the loop. Commissioner Beck stated when he was trying to get the Loop paved from 78 down and back out through the Parker Road was before LOHA took the lease and then they got the lease and the County was still getting the money but could not put it on the property. 4

5 He stated they had talked with FDOT about completing the loop and bringing it back to the same entrance. ON MOTION of Commissioner Beck seconded by Vice Chairman Storter Long the Board endorsed FDOT s 2013 Work Program (Five Year Plan) and agreed to have the Chairman sign a letter to that effect. Commissioner Griffin asked if Mr. Limbaugh would come back to the Board when the projects are beginning. Mr. Limbaugh stated they would come back at the Board s beck and call and he explained that they also hold preconstruction community meetings to explain the project, if necessary. Commissioner Stanley asked if they will be able to make additions to the plan in the future. Mr. Limbaugh stated that they will ask for a new priority list in June and they use that list to develop the new 5 th year. He stated now would be the time to be thinking about the wish list for He stated if funding becomes available they can do the projects sooner. Mr. Taylor explained that the County Manager will bring request for bids for engineering and resurfacing to the Board for each project. Commissioner Stanley stated that he has kids walking to school on Hwy 78 that need a sidewalk and it seems crazy to put a million dollars in Vance Whidden Park when no one is using it. Chairman Echols called the question. PUBLIC INPUT ON AGENDA ITEMS There were none. PUBLIC HEARINGS There were none. CONSENT AGENDA 4. A. Approved County warrants. (Exhibit A) General Fund: Law Enforcement Trust Fund: 1067 EMS Award Grant: B. Acknowledged Filing of Intergovernmental Cooperative Agreement for the City of Moore Haven, Glades County BOCC, and Port LaBelle Community Development District. C. Deleted #3605 Canon IR3035 Copier from Property Records. 5

6 D. Acknowledged receipt of South Florida Water Management District s Fiscal Budget for Fiscal Year ON MOTION of Commissioner Beck seconded by Vice Chairman Storter Long the Board approved the Consent Agenda items. BUSINESS AGENDA 5. Personnel Issue (Commissioner Beck) Commissioner Beck stated the County Commission has a code of ethics that they operate on and within those two commissioners cannot talk on or about an issue. He stated that he was surprised that this agenda item was listed this way and he wanted to straightened it out that no laws were violated. He stated that a simple remedy would have had Personnel Issues plural if the two items were combined. He stated that he requested a personnel issue and Vice Chairman Storter Long also requested a personnel issue and Mr. Taylor could have put both of them on separate items as there was no connection. Commissioner Beck stated that his problem is Code Enforcement. He stated that a lady in Ortona has reported violations on 3 parcels of property. He stated the Code Enforcement Officer is a hard worker and dedicated to the job and Glades County. The Code Enforcement Officer works for EMS 24 hours on and then works as Code Enforcement 2 3 days a week. Commissioner Beck stated that 2 3 days is not enough time for code enforcement in Glades County. He stated that $26, ($12.80/hour) is dedicated to the Code Enforcement personnel. He stated that Glades County needs to remedy the situation because if the Code Enforcement man gets off after an 8 hour day for code enforcement and then goes to work a 24 hour shift as EMS and there was a problem that would be setting the County up for a possible lawsuit. Commissioner Beck stated the Board needed to move forward with finding a Code Enforcement Officer to work 5 days a week and the person needs some oversight to make sure violations are taken care of and cleaned up. Commissioner Beck stated he went on the myglades.com website looking for the form for code violations and it took opening 53 websites to find the form. He said while he was looking on myglades.com he saw that Erica Villafuerte was still listed as Community Services and Social Services Director. He stated that he had gone on the Code Enforcement site and Clay Townsend was still listed as the Code Enforcement Officer and he has not worked for the County in some time. Commissioner Beck stated the website is hard to travel through and it needs to be updated. Commissioner Beck stated the Board needs to consider a full-time Code Enforcement Officer, and the website needs to be updated and made more user friendly. 6

7 Vice Chairman Storter Long stated the Board had already approved funding for the position and asked if they just needed to move forward and advertise it. She also agreed that the website needed to be updated. ON MOTION of Commissioner Beck seconded by Vice Chairman Storter Long the Board agreed to advertise for a full-time Code Enforcement Officer. Commissioner Stanley asked if the hours that the Code Enforcement Officer had been working would go into this new position. Commissioner Beck stated yes, that he would not have his second job. Chairman Echols called for the question. 6. Request: Early Learning Coalition of South West Florida (McHale) Chairman Echols stated this is not in the budget and is not a funded item. Vice Chairman Storter Long stated the Board did send a letter in October 2011 requesting a waiver as she requested. ON MOTION of Vice Chairman Storter Long seconded by Commissioner Beck the Board agreed to send a similar letter requesting a waiver. 7. Grant Application Summary (Missie Barletto) Missie Barletto, AIM Engineering & Surveying, Inc., stated the Board has a summary of the grant application they are working to submit on behalf of the County for the construction of the Glades County Industrial Park. The Economic Development Administration which is a division of the Federal Department of Commerce will provide up to 50% cost share for the construction of this infrastructure. The deadline is December 13, 2012 and December 10 th is the on-line verification deadline. Vice Chairman Storter Long asked if the Board is hiring AIM Engineering to make the application process and Chairman Echols would sign as chairman. Chairman Echols stated that is his understanding. Vice Chairman Storter Long stated the Board has already agreed to do that so asked if this is just an update. Chairman Echols stated a motion is not needed. Commissioner Griffin asked if there is any budget impact. Ms. Barletto stated that other than the cost of filling out the application there is none and the county s cost share of the grant. Vice Chairman Storter Long stated the $650, would be the County s matching amount but they do not have to do that until they accept the conditions of the grant. 7

8 Vice Chairman Storter Long asked for the estimated amount for Aim to fill out the grant. Ms. Barletto stated it would take about 125 hours and only about 23 hours is left to finalize the grant. Ms. Barletto stated the rate is $79.00/hour based on the 2006 contract they have with the County to do the Industrial Park development. Commissioner Beck stated under the funding it talks about 190 jobs and asked if those are full-time. Ms. Barletto stated those are full-time jobs that the people that have expressed an interest in benefitting from the infrastructure that the County would build in their business and commerce park. She stated those are the people that are willing to supply letters of commitment saying that up to that number of jobs within the first 5 years. 8. Agreement: Communications Site and Antenna Lease (Bob Jones) Bob Jones, Public Safety Director, stated this is a site agreement for the Lykes towers located in Lakeport and Muse that they have had since Sheriff Rider was in office. He stated the Sheriff s Office no longer needs the sites but the County needs them for pagers and radio systems and they also still maintain part of a VHS system. He stated the lease is to change the name from the Sheriff to the County. Vice Chairman Storter Long stated there were a couple of errors on the original lease. She stated that No. 9 says that Lessee warrants that it is the owner of the premises. She stated that the Leasor is the owner of the premises. She stated that she had checked with the County s insurance people and questioned if the County can name additional insured on the insurance. Attorney Pringle stated that he talked to Mr. Jones about several changes/ modifications they are going to make to the language of the agreement. He stated that he is going to address Sovereign Immunity, insurance and the indemnification prior to the lease being signed. Attorney Pringle asked for a motion to approve the lease with his changes and forward to Lykes for their consideration. He stated if Lykes does not agree it will be brought back to the Board with their proposed revisions. Commissioner Beck stated he would like to see the revised lease before it is approved. Vice Chairman Storter Long agreed. Attorney Pringle stated the changes are minimal and are not subtenant changes. ON MOTION of Commissioner Stanley seconded by Commissioner Griffin the Board approved the Agreement: Communications Site and Antenna Lease with the changes. (See Exhibit B) Motion carried by 3 2 vote. 8

9 Commissioner Beck and Vice Chairman Storter Long voted against the motion on the floor. 9. Award Bids for Construction of a Community Center Building at Ortona (Hilton) Larry Hilton, Community Development Director, stated that on November 19 th staff met with Ortona Community Association Board of Directors at the park because they wanted to change the location of the building. He stated they want to replace the existing structure (doublewide) that used to be the Community Development Office and put the new building in that spot. Mr. Hilton stated it cost about $7,700 to move and set up the doublewide in Ortona in Mr. Hilton stated they can move the building to another site or they can surplus it and try to sell it. Mr. Hilton stated they also talked about increasing the size of the range to a 60 inch range which would necessitate increasing the size of the range hood and the fire suppression system. He stated there is not much difference in the price of a 48 inch to a 60 inch range. Mr. Hilton requested the Board to approve the low bidders, to authorize changes in the location and the hood system, and to decide what to do with the old building. He stated the construction of the community center should not exceed $225,000. He asked the Board to authorize the additional cost to move the building and the additional cost of the range and fire system. Chairman Echols stated he did not want to move the building somewhere and he thought they should surplus and sell it. Mr. Hilton stated the building is not in good shape and cannot be used as a home. He stated it could be used as a storage shed and if someone bid $10 and they move it, the County would be money ahead. Commissioner Griffin asked if there will be more added cost to parking area or access to it. Mr. Hilton stated the parking there now is all grass and paved parking is not part of this cost. Vice Chairman Storter Long stated that she did meet with Mr. Hilton and Mr. Taylor at the site and when they realized that moving the building anywhere else was going to increase the costs because they would have to have another septic tank system and relocate water lines and underground utility lines, they decided to put it where the building is located now. Vice Chairman Storter Long suggested declaring the building surplus and attempting to sell it. She said the last time they tried to sell it, they did not get any bids and they may have to let someone have it for the cost of moving it. 9

10 She stated the range and kitchen is one of the biggest draws for Ortona s fundraisers and that is how they make money. She said they are saving money by not moving the building somewhere else but they do have the cost of getting it moved if someone will not take it. Vice Chairman Storter Long stated that the lady that does the Gators Club in Lakeport would love to have somewhere for the kid s club. Commissioner Beck stated they had mentioned they would like to have it for the children s gatherings but he did not know with the age of the building and it has been moved several times. Chairman Echols stated the One Cent money is set aside to set the buildings up but the maintenance, mowing, water and light bills come from General Fund and they cannot keep adding these items to General Fund. Chairman Echols stated he is against moving the building anywhere. ON MOTION of Commissioner Beck seconded by Vice Chairman Storter Long the Board approved the construction of Ortona Community Center with changes as described at a cost not to exceed $225, (See Exhibit C) ON MOTION of Commissioner Beck seconded by Vice Chairman Storter Long the Board agreed to declare the existing doublewide at Ortona as surplus and direct staff to dispose of as provided by law. 10. Annual Luncheon (Chairman) Chairman Echols asked if the Board wants to host an annual luncheon at the Doyle Connor building this year with an approximate cost of $1, ON MOTION of Commissioner Griffin seconded by Commissioner Beck the Board agreed to host the Annual Christmas Luncheon on December 17 at an approximate cost of $1, Commissioner Griffin stated that he wanted it to be called the Annual Christmas Luncheon. 11. Adopt Resolution No Amending the Glades County Sheriff s Budget (Sandra Brown) Sandra Brown, Chief Deputy Clerk, stated this is a resolution to amend the Sheriff s budget by the amount of revenues that come from the General Fund and on the first page of the resolution the total needs to be changed to $7,398, because they failed to add a grant in. Chairman Echols stated that they have a copy of the revised resolution. 10

11 Vice Chairman Storter Long stated that she spoke with Shelly Ridgdill, Glades County Sheriff s Department, and they cannot budget the money they receive for the detainees so it offsets the money that the County budgets and when they do receive it they have to amend their budget to reflect the income and expenses. ON MOTION of Commissioner Stanley seconded by Commissioner Beck the Board adopted Resolution , amending the Glades County Sheriff s Budget. 12. Consider Accepting 1996 Airboat from Glades County Sheriff s Department for Public Safety (Sandra Brown) Sandra Brown stated a 1996 airboat was donated by the Sheriff s Department to Public Safety in 2009 and the paperwork was never completed to transfer the boat and it was not brought before the Board for acceptance for insurance purposes. The Public Safety Department has spent money on repairing the airboat. ON MOTION of Commissioner Griffin seconded by Commissioner Stanley the Board accepted transfer of a 1996 Diamondback Airboat from the Sheriff s Department to Public Safety. 13. Adopt Resolution Amending Revenues, Expenditures, and Approving Budget Transfers to Amend the County Budgets (Sandra Brown) Nancy Dean, Finance Director, asked for approval of Resolution No , amending revenues, expenditures, and approving budget transfers to amend the county budgets. She stated this is to revise the approved budget to the actual budget. ON MOTION of Commissioner Beck seconded by Vice Chairman Storter Long the Board adopted Resolution No , amending revenues, expenditures, and approving budget transfers to amend the county budgets. 14. Personnel Issue (Commissioner Storter) Vice Chairman Storter Long stated that in accordance with the Glades County Commissioners 2010 County Manager Policy Statement Section A, Item 1, she hereby moves to terminate the employment of County Manager Wendell Taylor without cause effective immediately. Commissioner Beck seconded the motion. 11

12 Chairman Echols asked for discussion. There was none. Chairman Echols called for a vote. Vice Chairman Storter and Beck voted aye. Chairman Echols and Commissioner Griffin opposed the motion. Commissioner Stanley stated that he did not vote. Vice Chairman Storter Long stated that he had to vote. Commissioner Stanley stated this is a tough decision to make being a new board member but he knows there has been a lot of friction and animosity on the Board and it does not seem to be changing. Commissioner Stanley stated that it is not a vote he would want to make but he would have to vote for his removal. Chairman Echols stated the motion carried by 3 to 2 vote with Griffin and Echols against the motion. CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS There was no discussion. COUNTY ATTORNEY Attorney Pringle stated that he has received word back from Seacoast Bank regarding the 2 nd mortgage position on a SHIP property. He stated the payoff figure to purchase the first mortgage and note is approximately $7, He stated this item will be on the next agenda in December. The bank is willing to sell the note for the face amount without any discounts. COUNTY MANAGER There was no discussion. DEPARTMENT HEADS There was no discussion. PUBLIC INPUT ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS There was no public input. COMMISSIONERS ITEMS AND COMMENTS Vice Chairman Storter Long stated there is not an administrative assistant in the County Manager s Office and since Toni Watts left she is getting almost no communication from that office. She stated they need to fill that position and need to be ready in December with some suggestions on recruiting a County Manager. Commissioner Stanley stated if Mr. Taylor would be willing to stay on, he would like him to stay on until they find a new county manager. Vice Chairman Storter Long stated the motion was to be effective immediately. Commissioner Stanley asked if they were going to appoint someone to fill the position. 12

13 Vice Chairman Storter Long recommended that if a department head has a problem they contact the commissioner where the problem is and asked that communication come through the Chairman. Commissioner Beck stated that he has a serious conflict with the Chairman acting as the county manager, even for communication. He stated it should be Larry Hilton until they find interim/full-time because of the Sunshine rules. Commissioner Beck suggested contacting the Florida Association of Counties and Small County Coalition to try to locate an interim county manager. Commissioner Stanley stated they needed to appoint someone now. Commissioner Beck stated that Mr. Hilton and Bob Jones are the Deputy County Managers. Commissioner Stanley asked if he was willing to accept. Commissioner Beck stated if they directed him to. Commissioner Stanley stated they needed to find out if he wants to do it. Commissioner Griffin moved that Larry Hilton be appointed Interim County Manager. Chairman Echols stated that is not an agenda item and he thought that motion would be out of order. Attorney Pringle stated that was correct and he believed that the Deputy County Managers would be the acting County Managers. Chairman Echols stated that he has no intention of being a county manager. Storter Long asked if the deputy county managers have a job description. Attorney Pringle stated the deputy county managers would proceed the same as any other time when the county manager is not present. Commissioner Stanley stated that they do not need to go outside and he believes the employees need a letter and told the chain of command tomorrow morning. Chairman Echols stated the Board cannot vote on that but he will do the best he can to get the word out. Chairman Echols thanked Mr. Taylor for a very fine job. He stated that Mr. Taylor got a lot done and he appreciated him. Chairman Echols stated that as Chairman he would follow the agenda and would not make a motion or second one. 13

14 Commissioner Griffin thanked Mr. Taylor for his work on the projects he got completed and stated that he is looking forward to growth. ADJOURN ON MOTION of Commissioner Beck seconded by Commissioner Griffin the Board moved to adjourn the meeting. There being no further discussion Chairman Echols adjourned the meeting at 7:42 p.m. ATTEST: Russell Echols, Chairman Joe Flint, Clerk of the Circuit Court Approved: January 8, 2013 THESE MINUTES ARE NOT A VERBATIM RECORD. TAPES ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN LISTENING TO THE ENTIRE MEETING. 14