1 INTERVIEW WITH: INTERVIEWED BY: ELLIS MAXWELL DATE OF INTERVIEW: 3-10-10 CASE NUMBER: 09I054602 DATE TRANSCRIBED: 04-14-10 TRANSCRIBED BY: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 (PHONE RINGING) HELLO HI IS THERE? THAT S ME THIS IS DETECTIVE MAXWELL WITH WEST VALLEY POLICE IN UTAH HOW YOU DOING TODAY? IM GOOD HEY JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE WITH YA IF IF YOU HAVE A MINUTE AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT A JOSH AND SUSAN POWELL AND YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. DO YOU HAVE A MINUTE I CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT? SURE UM IM UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT A AS FAR AS WHAT IVE LEARNED OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST THREE MONTHS IS THAT YOU AND JOSH AND A YOU KNOW JUST A GROUP OF GUYS WERE ALL PRETTY CLOSE IN THE DAY SINGLES WARD TYPE STUFF RIGHT? YES THAT S RIGHT HOLD ON ONE SECOND. (PEOPLE TALKING) SORRY SOMEBODY CALLING ME ABOUT MY FRIENDS WIFE THAT S MISSING IN UTAH IT S ACTUALLY A POLICE OFFICER V.161.000001
2 23 24 25 ALRIGHT IM AND A SO ANYWAYS I WAS GIVIN A YOUR NAME BY A SOME PEOPLE THAT I WAS IN TOUCH WITH AND BUT THEY GAVE ME 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 SO IS WHAT IM INTERESTED IN IS WHAT YOU A HOW LONG YOU VE KNOWN JOSH AND SUSAN? A WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM AS A COUPLE? INDIVIDUALLY? A LAST TIME THAT YOU VE SPE TO EITHER ONE OF THEM? WHAT THAT CONVERSATION CONSISTED OF? STUFF LIKE THAT UM IM AFRAID I WONT BE A WHOLE LOT OF HELP ON THIS BUT A (SIGH) IVE KNOWN JOSH AND SUSAN ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT SAME TIME I MET EM BOTH AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME A IM GONNA SAY (SIGH) WINTER OF THE YEAR 2000 SO TEN YEARS JUST ABOUT UM A ASK QUESTIONS IT S A MAKE IT EASIER? THE LAST TIME I MET I SAW JOSH WAS ACTUALLY LAST MONTH I HAD VISIT WITH HIM DID HE VISIT YOU? OR YOU VISITED HIM? A BOTH I WENT TO HIS DADS PLACE ONCE AND A HE CAME OVER TO MY PLACE ONCE. OH AND A WAS ANYTHING EVER MENTIONED OF SUSAN? OH YEAH WE TALKED ABOUT IT CAUSE I MEAN IT S AN OBVIOUS TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION WITH THE THE SITUATION BEING WHAT IT IS ANYTHING OF INTEREST THERE OR CONCERN? NO JUST I MEAN HE S TO ME HE APPEARS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT V.161.000002
52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 3 I MEAN I SPENT MORE TIME TALKING WITH HIS FAMILY THEN I DID WITH HIM ABOUT IT. UM HUH BUT BUT AS FOR THE LAST TIME I TALKED TO SUSAN THAT S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS BECAUSE WHEN THEY MOVED TO YOU UTAH THEY KINDA LOST TOUCH WITH US AND EVERYTHING ALRIGHT HOW BOUT PRIOR TO SUSAN MISSING WHEN WOULD BE THE LAST TIME YOU SPE WITH JOSH? UM A ALMOST THE SAME GOOD TWO YEARS ABOUT THE SAME WHEN I TALKED TO SUSAN LAST I CANT REMEMBER EXACTLY UM HUH I MAY A I THINK I THINK I TALKED TO THEM WHEN THEY CAME UP TO VISIT ONE TIME A COUPLE YEARS AGO BUT OTHER THEN THAT UM I NOTICED THAT A YOUR ALSO A FRIEND OF SUSAN S ON HER FACEBO ANY CONTACT BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU ON ON FACEBO? A (SIGH) VERY LITTLE UM A COUPLE EMAILS A I KNOW THAT A WE HAD A LITTLE EMAIL AND FORTH ABOUT JOSH S CHURCH ISSUES UM HUH BUT THAT WAS (SIGH) ABOUT A YEAR AGO SO THAT S THE ONLY CONTACT YOU GUYS HAVE OR A CONVERSATION WAS JUST ABOUT JOSH AND HIS CHURCH ATTENDANCE? YEAH AND ISSUES? YEAH NOTHING ELSE ALRIGHT UM LETS SEE SO YOUR STILL IN CONTACT WITH JOSH THEN UP THERE? V.161.000003
4 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 A OCCASIONALLY K HE HASN T A I GUESS EX HE S EXPRESSING MORE OF CONCERNED AS FAR AS HER WELL BEING NOTHING THAT HE S INVOLVED OR YEAH A HE S NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HER MISSING? NO HE S STILL HOPING SHE LL COME LIKE HE DOESN T (SIGH) I DON T KNOW WHERE SHE IS BUT A STILL HOLDIN OUT HOPE THAT SHE LL COME SO NOTHING A IN REGARDS TO HIS BEHAVIOR SINCE SHE S BECAME MISSIN AND S AND BEGINNING TO SPEAK WITH YOU THAT YOU FIND AS ODD OR INTERESTING? OR OUT OF THE ORDINARY? JOSH HAS ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF AN ODD UM HUH UM IM PRETTY SURE YOU VE ALREADY HEARD THAT YEAH A BUT NOTHING CRAZY OR ANYTHING OUT YOU KNOW IM NOT A GRIEF COUNSELOR BUT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT SO I MEAN I DON T KNOW HOW TO. YEAH READ A PERSONS REACTIONS IM RIGHT I KNOW EVERYBODY TAKES THINGS DIFFERENTLY AND YEAH YOU CAN TELL HE S HE S HURT AND BUT I D IT DOES NOT TO ME APPEAR THAT HE IS TRYIN TO HIDE YOU KNOW? YEAH EXCUSE ME IT S GONNA BE NOISY FOR A SECOND (BUZZING) SORRY IM A AND YOU GOT ME AT THE START OF MY SHIFT V.161.000004
5 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 SO (LAUGHING) (LAUGHING) NO PROBLEM THAT S I MEAN MOST PEOPLE ARE WORKIN AT THIS TIME OF THE DAY (INAUDIBLE)SO I UNDERSTAND SO A IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT A YOU THINK MAY BE IMPORTANT THAT I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THEM AS A COUPLE OR INDIVIDUALLY? YOU KNOW NOT I NOT THAT I CAN THINK OF I MEAN LIKE I SAID HONESTLY WE HAVENT BEEN THE CLOSEST OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS SINCE THEY MOVED JUST DISTANCE IT HAPPENS UM I DON T KNOW I I CANT THINK OF ANYTHING I CAN TELL YOU THAT WOULD HELP IN ANY WAY. UM ALRIGHT PERFECT HE S STILL LIVING WITH HIS DAD? AS FAR AS I KNOW YEAH. UM ALRIGHT WHAT S A S I ALREADY GOT YOUR ADDRESS LET ME DOUBLE I THINK I ALREADY GOT YOUR ADDRESS FROM LET S SEE AND THIS IS YOUR CELL PHONE RIGHT? YES AND A WHAT IS YOUR DATE OF BIRTH SO I CAN PUT THAT IN WITH MY REPORT? ALRIGHT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH ME OR IS THAT ABOUT ALL YOU KNOW? THAT S THAT S ABOUT ALL I CAN HELP YOU WITH SORRY. ALRIGHT ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL? NO THANK YOU SIR ALRIGHT UN UNLESS YOU CAN TELL ME YOU VE GOT SOME OTHER IDEAS? NOPE ANY OTHER LEADS AT ALL? V.161.000005
6 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 NO I DON T HAVE ANYTHING NOTHING THAT I COULD RELEASE ANYWAYS BUT UM JUST TRYIN TO I MEAN IVE BEEN MEANING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU FOR A FEW WEEKS NOW ITS JUST IVE BEEN SIDE ON OTHER STUFF THAT S KINDA WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE IMPORTANT YOU KNOW? SO IM JUST KINDA GOIN THROUGH MY NOTES AND TRYIN TO MAKE SURE I GET IN TOUCH WITH EVERYBODY THAT I NEED TO. ALRIGHT THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR YUP HAVE A GOOD DAY. YOU TO. BYE END OF INTERVIEW.. V.161.000006
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