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1 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 1/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE Participants: 1. JOHN C MANKINS AIMS Chairman 2. GIUSEPPE REIBALDI ESA Vice Chairman 3. S. RAMAKRISHNAN ISRO Secretary 4. SHOIDIRO MIHARA USEF 5. ALEX IGNATIEV 6. SERGE FLAMENGAR 7. MARIA ANTONETTA PERINO THALESALENIASPACE 8. WENDELL MENDELL NASA 9. GIANCARLO GENTA POLITO 10. CHRISTOPHE BONNAL CNES 11. ROMAN KEZERASHVILI NYC TECH 12. RAO V. KOTESWARA ISRO 13. KLAUS SCHILLING 14. MAX CALABRO IA FRANCE 15. HIROBUMI SAITO JAXA 16. KOICHI IJICHI USEF 17. GREG MATLOFF NYC TECH USA 18. JIM GRADY JIM GEI 19. JUNICHIRO KAWAGUCHI JAXA 20. SUN MOBILIA GEI 21. YASUSHI HORIKAWA JAXA 22. JEAN MUYLACET 23. ANDREAS RITTWEGER ASTRIUM EADS 24. HORST RAUCK GMK 25. WILLIAM SIEGFRIED BOEING 26. CHRISTIAN SALLABERGER MDA CORPN 27. C.P. STAURINIDIS ESA 28. MICHAEL MENKING ASTRIUM EADS 29. E.D. ASHFORD 30. JUNJIRO ONODA JAXA 31. KUNINORI UESUGI JAPAN 32. SEISHIRO KIBE JAXA 33. CLAUDIO BRUNO UNIROMA 34. PETER BAINUM HOWARD

2 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 2/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE 35. ROBERT A LAINE ORANGE 36. HAROLKI TAKEGAHARA 37. HIROKI MATSUO

3 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 3/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE Objective : Progress Review preparatory to SAC Presentation on Academy Day at IAC, Prague. AGENDA 1. Introduction & Commission III composition 2. Review of Actions from Paris meeting held in March Status of Study Group reports progress & way forward: # SG 3.1 Advanced Propulsion Perspective Max Calabro # SG 3.9 Private Human Access to Space Christophe Bonnal # SG 3.10 Interstellar Precursor Missions Claudio Bruno # SG 3.11 Solar Energy from Space John Mankins # SG 3.12 Global Human Exploration of Space Wendell Mendell # SG 3.13 Space Elevators Concept & Technologies Peter Swan 4. New SG proposals: Piggy Backing to Planets Jacques Blamont 5. Symposia status: IAC 2010 IAC Report to SAC 7. Any other Business

4 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 4/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE Minutes : Subject/Description Action Due Date Chairman, Commission III welcomed the Members and other participants to the Commission meeting and briefed on the agenda proposed. 1. Commission III composition was displayed (Annexure-I) and confirmed. 2. Review of Actions from March 2010 meeting: Action items status was presented (Annexure-I) 3. Status of study Group reports: #SG 3.1 Advanced Propulsion Perspective Comments on draft document received from M/s.Bonnal, Onoda, Claudio Bruno, Hans Hoffmann & Roger Lenard were presented and reviewed (Annexure-I)

5 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 5/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE It was noted that the scope of the study document is revised and limited to Chemical Propulsion from Earth to Orbit The commission concluded that this study report may not qualify as a cosmic study document since it is more in the nature of a survey report on the state of art. Hence, it may be redefined as a technical paper/monograph to be published under ACTA Astronautica Journal of IAA. The document to be revised/ updated taking into account the comments from Members and the above recommendation of Commission-III Max Calabro 15 th Dec The Commission Agreed that study is completed and hence SG 3.1 is declared as closed. #SG 3.9 Private Human Access to Space: Study Status reviewed; Part-I covering the sub-orbital flights in

6 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 6/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE advanced state of readiness. Part- II addressing the orbital flights initiated. 2 nd International IAA conference on Private Human Access to Space scheduled for 30 th May 1 st June at Arcachon, France. The symposium announcement has to be posted in IAA website. #3.10 Inter Stellar Precursor Missions Comments on draft report received from M/s. Bonnal, Hans Hoffman, G. Reibaldi and Roger Lenard presented to the Commission (Annexure-I) It was observed that this study report is in good shape. However, the report to be revised with respect to the consistency of technical depth and harmonization of different topics/chapters dealt with. The main body of the report to be more concise and the technical IAA Secretariat Closed

7 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 7/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE details/mathematical formulations can be shifted to Appendix. Additional feed back from other Commission-III Members to be communicated to Prof. Bruno. Revised Study Report to be ready for review by Commission III Members. Commission- III Members C Bruno 31 st Oct th Feb # SG 3.11 Solar Energy from Space The Study Report is complete and ready for review by Commission Members. The draft report will be mailed to Commission-III Members for feed back. Due on 30 th November Initiation of Peer IAA Review process. Completion of Peer IAA Review process. John C. Mankins 15 th Oct th Nov March 2011

8 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 8/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE # SG 3.12 Global Human Exploration of Space Study Group meeting held in March 2010 The objective of study, target audience, scope of the report with respect to already completed studies have been discussed. Study Group report outline under review and writing assignments will be identified. The IAA 50 th Anniversary Study Group report on this topic will form part of inputs from this study. W. Mendell # SG 3.13 Space Elevators concepts & Technologies Study Group proposal (Annexure- II) formally approved by the Academy and work has commenced. Progress to be reported in next Commission Meeting. P. Swan March 2011

9 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 9/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE 4. New SG Proposal The Commission considered the Proposal (Annexure-III) for a new Study Group on the topic Piggybacking to Planets originated by Mr. Jacques Blamont. The Commission concluded that the proposal is too narrow in scope, more in line of a project execution task than a cosmic study. The Commission recommended the proposal may be revised to address a wider subject, viz. Low Cost Planetary Missions using Mini Satellites. 5. Symposia Status: IAC-2010 and IAC-2011 sessions related to Commission-III are generally good. There is a need to review the sessions planned in IAC-2012 to link them with the current Study Groups under Commission-III.

10 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 10/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE 6. Report to SAC: The final report presented to SAC on 26 th September is given in Annexure-IV. 7. Any other Business: Reviewed the actions from IAA Commissions plenary meeting held that morning. # Regarding presentations from IAA in UN COPOUS meet, suggested following possibilities: Present IAA 50 th Anniversary Study Reports (4 topics) Present outcome of concluded Study SG 3.11 report on Space Solar Power. # Regarding special events at IAC in Cape Town, SA on the theme Space for Africa/Africa in Space it was proposed that symposia

11 I.A.A. Commission III FINAL 11 TH NOVEMBER 2010 PRAGUE MEETING SEPT 2010 MINUTES Meeting Date(s) : September 26 th, 2010 Page 11/11 Venue : Suite I, Rhine, CORINTHIA HOTEL, PRAGUE key note talks can be arranged relevant to the theme, for example, IAA SG 3.11 presentation on Space Solar Power can be the keynote for session C 3.1. # With reference to Global Space Technology Forum meet at Abu Dhabi, IAA should get involved. # Topics for possible stand-alone conferences to be identified. # Special sessions/symposia on Anniversaries of early space endeavor events to be identified and proposed. # Interface between the new IAA Centres for Conferences and studies respectively and the IAA Commissions to be spelt out. Members, Commission- III Members, Commission- III IAA Secretariat 15 th Dec th Dec th Dec. 2010

9 Private Human Access to Space Christophe Bonnal # SG 3.10 Interstellar Precursor Missions Claudio Bruno # SG 3.11 Solar Energy from Space John Mankins # SG 3.

12 IAA COMMISSION-III III MEETING PRAGUE, CZECH REPUBLIC Sunday, 26 th September 2010 AGENDA 1. Introduction & Commission III composition 2. Review of Actions from Paris meeting held in March Status of Study Group reports progress & way forward: # SG 3.1 Advanced Propulsion Perspective Max Calbro # SG 3.9 Private Human Access to Space Christophe Bonnal # SG 3.10 Interstellar Precursor Missions Claudio Bruno # SG 3.11 Solar Energy from Space John Mankins # SG 3.12 Global Human Exploration of Space Wendell Mendell # SG 3.13 Swan Space Elevators Concept & Technologies Peter 4. New SG proposals: Piggy Backing to Planets Jacques Blamont 5. Symposia status: IAC 2011 IAC Report to SAC 7. AoB ANNEXURE- i

13 Commission III Composition John C. Mankins (USA), Chairman Giuseppe Reibaldi (It), Deputy Chairman S. Ramakrishnan (In), Secretary Christophe Bonnal (F), Member Hans E. W. Hoffmann (D), Member Wendell Mendell (USA), Member Claudio Bruno (It), Member Junjiro Onoda (J), Member Roger Lenard (USA), Member Christian Sallaberger (Ca), Member Tetsuo Yasaka (J), Past Chair

14 Review of Actions from March 2010 meeting SG 3.1 DRAFT DOCUMENT ON CHEMICAL PROPULSION FROM EARTH TO ORBIT (MAX CALABRO) TO BE SENT TO COMN.III MEMBERS AND FEEDBACK SOUGHT SG 3.10 DRAFT REPORT ON INTERSTELLAR PRECURSOR MISSIONS (CALUDIO BRUNO) TO BE SENT TO COMMN III MEMBERS & FEED BACK SOUGHT COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM: C. BONNAL (CNES) ONODA (JAXA) CLAUDIO BRUNO HANS HOFFMANN ROGER LENARD COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM: C. BONNAL HANS HOFFMANN ROGER LENARD G. REIBALDI

15 SG. 3.9 DRAFT REPORT ON PRIVATE HUMAN ACCESS TO SPACE (C. BONNAL) PART-I TO BE PRESENTED & PROPOSAL FOR PART-II (ORBITAL FLIGHTS) STUDY PLAN TO BE PRESENTED SG FINAL DRAFT REPORT ON SOLAR ENERGY FROM SPACE (J. MANKINS) TO BE READY FOR REVIEW/DECISION ON PEER REVIEW TO BE PRESENTED

16 3. STUDY GROUP PROGRESS SG-3.1 ADVANCED PROPULSION PERSPECTIVE COMMENTS FROM BONNAL C. COVERS CORRECTLY ALL CHEMICAL PROPULSION DOMAIN RECOMMENDATIONS CHAPTER TO BE STRENGTHENED GENERAL ROAD MAP AS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY IS TO BE REVIEWED IN COMMISSION IT IS STILL A DRAFT CAN BE IMPROVED

17 SG 3.1 ADVANCED PROPULSION PERSPECTIVE MAX CALABRO ONODA (JAXA) GENERAL REMARK ON HYBRID PROPULSION CHARACTERISTICS & TECHNICAL CHALLENGES TO BE ADDED JAPANESE DEVELOPMENTS IN HYBRID ROCKET TO BE INCLUDED SOME UPDATES ON H-II VEHICLE PROPULSION PARAMETERS

18 SG-3.1 ADVANCED PROPULSION PERSPECTIVE - CLAUDIO BRUNO REFERENCES FOR ALL TABLES & FIGURES USE Isp INSTEAD Isv NO MENTION OF LRE USING H 2 O 2 MIX OF DIFFERENT TOPICS IMPROVE FOCUS STATEMENTS ON FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS NOT CLEAR DOCUMENT SKEWED TOWARDS SP/SRM LOOKS AT THE EXISTING SCENARIO - TSTO USING AB MISSING

19 SG-3.1 ADVANCED PROPULSION PERSPECTIVE - HANS HOFFMANN REPORT INCOMPLETE WITHOUT MENTION OF FALCON LAUNCHER /MERLIN ENGINE ETC. SHOULD INCLUDE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM AMERICAN /CHINESE /RUSSIAN AGENCIES ROGER LENARD REVIEW INTRODUCTION/FIRST O CHAPTER REWRITE THE SECTION ON AUTOMOTIVE & AIRCRAFT TURBOJETS FUTURE OF HYBRID PROPULSION MISSING GOOD REVIEW OVERALL

20 STUDY GROUP PROGRESS 3.10 INTERSTELLAR PRECURSOR MISSIONS CLAUDIO BRUNO C. BONNAL TOPIC IS ORIGINAL & INTERESTING TABLE OF CONTENTS GOOD & LOGICAL MANY CHAPTERS YET TO BE FILLED CHAPTERS TO BE HOMOGENISED/ HARMONISED IN TERMS OF TECHNICAL DEPTH CHAPTER ALREADY PUBLISHED MATTER (ACTA ASTRONAUTICA) IDENTIFY TWO MEMBERS TO HORMONISE THE DOCUMENT WITH EQUAL DEPTH IN ALL CHAPTERS

21 SG-3.10 INTERSTELLAR PRECURSOR MISSIONS CLAUDIO BRUNO HANS HOFFMANN REPORT IS GOOD WORK & GOOD CONTRIBUTION TO ACADEMY WE CAN PUBLISH IT ROGER LENARD WELL WRITTEN/NOTHING OUT-OF OF-PLACE SECTION BY BRUNO & SIMONE TO BE EXPANDED TO INCORPORATE CONCEPTS THAT CAN BE BUILT WITH CURRENT TECHNOLOGIES AREA OF SOLAR SAILS/SOLAR ELECTRIC PROPULSION LOT OF REPETITION REQUIRES HARMONISATION

22 SG-3.10 INTERSTELLAR PRECURSOR MISSIONS CLAUDIO BRUNO GIUSEPPE REIBALDI THE STUDY IS FRAGMENTED, A SYSTEM APPROACH IS MISSING THE EMPHASIS IS MAINLY IN THE PROPULSION WHILE THERE ARE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES REQUIRED FOR SUCH MISSIONS. A CLEAR SET OF CONCLUSIONS IS MISSING WITH SPECIFIC PROPOSAL INCLUDING OVERLAP WITH EXISTING/PLANNED INTERPLANETARY MISSIONS. SESSIONS AND THE STUDY GROUP NEEDS TO BE INTERLINKED SO THAT THE SESSION PROVIDE USEFUL INPUTS FOR THE STUDY AND IT IS ALSO THE FORUM TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE STUDY WITH EMPHASIS ON CONTROVERSIAL AREA.

23 Proposal for Forming an IAA Study Group SG 3.13 Title of Study: Assessment of the Technological Feasibility and Challenges of the Space Elevator Concept Proposer(s): Peter Swan, Ph.D. & David Raitt, Ph.D. Primary IAA Commission Preference: Commission III Members of Study Team Chairs: Secretary: Peter Swan & David Raitt Cathy Swan Members: (accepted) Robert Penny, Lubos Perek, Tetsuo Yasaka, Radu Rugescu, Richard J. Tremayne-Smith, Ted Semon, Bryan Laubscher, Michael Laine, Ben Shelef (Invited) Wiley Larson (invited) other members of Commission III Short Description of Scope of Study Overall Goal: (1) Assessment of the Technologies - Ribbon Material - Dynamics of Ribbon - Base Station Infrastructure - Ribbon Rider Motor / Wheels - Power to Ribbon Rider (Lasers vs. sun) - Ribbon Rider Platform (2) Systems Design Issues - Space Debris - Deployment - Environmental Elements (3) Description of Space Elevator Implementation Dynamics and Control of Long Ribbon, Build-up of 1-meter wide Ribbon, Power Approach, Payload Carrying Capacity, Anchor Design

24 Intermediate Goals: (1) Conduct sessions at IAC s (South Africa, Naples) with purpose of presenting technological aspects of the Space Elevator. [direct questions from study group] (2) Conduct a min-symposium co-sponsored by the Academy and the International Space Elevator Consortium presenting the results of this study. [could be session at IAF at Naples] Methodology: The initial step is to sponsor sessions inside the IAA D.4.4 Symposium (Symposium on the Far Future: Space Elevators & Tethers). A parallel step is to create a study group, establish goals, objectives and timelines for a Space Elevator cosmic study. Conduct a min-symposium to present the results of the study. The last step would be to produce a report for the Academy that discussed the feasibility of a Space Elevator and identify the potential benefits to humanity. Time Line: 1 st Meeting Oct 10 in Prague to establish study group and schedule [of course much will be started thru and telephone calls starting when the study is approved.] March 11 in Paris to discuss progress, identify action items, finalize South Africa and Naples papers to support study group 3 rd Meeting: Oct 11 in South Africa to discuss presentation during IAF and finalize some portions of the report. 4 th Meeting: Mar 12 in Paris summarize conclusions and recommendations in the report and draft final aspects of Academy product. 5 th Meeting: Oct 12 in Naples produce the Academy report for commission review and have a session focused on the report in co-sponsorship of the International Space Elevator Consortium 6 th Meeting: Paris 2013 produce the Academy report- for peer review Final Product : Academy Publication entitled: Assessment of the Technological Feasibility and Challenges of the Space Elevator Concept Target Community and Expected Effects: Those organizations wishing to have inexpensive access to space: Mars/Moon program, Life in space believers, geosynchronous satellite owners (communications, solar power satellites, etc.), planetary defense organizations, commercial satellite builders, space tourism companies, and governments.

25 Support Needed: Minimal at the present time: Title a session in Prague, South Africa and Naples: Vision of the Far Future Space Elevators and Space Tethers the last two structured to support study group. Potential Sponsors: space agencies, Mars/Moon programs, planetary defense organizations, commercial space organizations, future human habitats and world governments. To be returned to the IAA Secretary General Paris sgeneral@iaamail.org by fax: or \by Date: 22 March 2010 Signature: signed Peter Swan No Signature required if document authenticated.

26 Initial Phase Application received: Created study group March 2010 Chairing Session in Prague on Space Elevators and Space Tethers focused toward the cosmic step. Commission Approved: SAC Approved: Web Site Section opened: Members Appointed: Final Phase Peer Review by Commission Completed: Recommended by the Commission: Final Report Received: SAC Approved: BOT Accepted: Publisher Selected: Study Published:

27 ANNEXURE-III IAA, Paris, 2010 Form -1- Instructions and application form: see: Scientific Activity section at Proposal for Forming an IAA Study Group Title of Study: PIGGY BACKING TO PLANETS Proposer(s): Jacques BLAMONT (Must be member(s) of the Academy M or CM) Primary IAA Commission Preference: (From Commission 1 to Commission 6) Commissions: 1 Space Physical Sciences, 2 Space Life Sciences, 3 Space Technology & Systems Development, 4 Space Systems Operations & Utilization, 5 Space Policy, Law & Economics, 6 Space and Society: Culture and Education Secondary IAA Commission Interests: (From Commission 1 to Commission 6) Members of Study Team Chair(s): Jacques BLAMONT (Must be member(s) of the Academy, M or CM) TBD (INDIA) Secretary: Other Members: (Open to members and non- members of the Academy) DEGTYAREV Alexander (UKRAIN), LOPOTA (RUSSIA), TBD (KELDYSH INST.,RUSSIA), TBD (JAPAN, J.Y. LEGALL (FRANCE), D. MC CLEESE (USA, JPL), G. VANE (USA, JPL), S.ATREYA (USA, Univ. MICHIGAN), TBD (GERMANY) Short Description of Scope of Study Overall Goal: ESTABLISH LIMITS CONSTRAINTS AND ADVANTAGES OF THE USE OF COMMERCIAL LAUNCHES TO GTO FOR PLANETARY MISSIONS (Expected scientific or practical benefit of the study group's efforts) Intermediate Goals: UPDATE PRELIMINARY STUDIES (1996 ) OF TRAJECTORIES AND MASSES FOR CONDITIONS IN THE 2010 S.

28 IAA, Paris, 2010 Form -2- Instructions and application form: see: Scientific Activity section at Methodology: ( works, workshops, stand alone conferences, interim publications, etc.) NEW SESSION AT THE 9 TH IAA LPCM-LOWCOST PLANETARY MISSIONS ARTICLE IN ACTA ASTRONAUTICA Time Line: ONE YEAR (Cannot exceed three years) Final Product (Report, Publication, etc.): SEE ABOVE Target Community: PLANETOLOGY AND SPACE OPERATIONS COMMUNITY AND LAUNCH INDUSTRY Support Needed: Potential Sponsors: SPACE AGENCIES, SPACECRAFT AND LAUNCHERS INDUSTRY To be returned to the IAA Secretary General Paris by fax: or by sgeneral@iaamail.org Date: JULY 31TH 2010 (No Signature required if document authenticated).

29 IAA, Paris, 2010 Form -3- Instructions and application form: see: Scientific Activity section at Follow-up Section for IAA use only Application received: Initial Phase Commission Approved: SAC Approved: Web Site Section opened: Members Formally Appointed by IAA: Final Phase Peer Review by Commission Completed: Recommended by the Commission: Final Report Received: SAC Approved: BOT Accepted: Publisher Selected: Study Published:

I.A.A. Commission III

I.A.A. Commission III D A E J E O N M E E T I N G M I N U T E meeting date: October 11 th, 2009 date de la réunion ref./réf. page/page 1 4 meeting place lieu de la réunion Daejeon, Republic of Korea chairman