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1 Finding of Origin Addendum Start as if a U.S. migration: Use local records first Source: Sharon DeBartolo Carmack, A Genealogist s Guide to Discovering Your Immigrant & Ethnic Ancestors (2000) [DIEA] Scope of Presentation Goal: find foreign town of origin For ship passenger lists (not focus here) - Search Ancestry,com - Immigration Main focus: Immigration before Often found in documents after Intention filed before citizenship Start as if a U.S. migration - Use local records first: government, church, history books, newspaper, etc. - Compile family groups World War I Draft Registration of Valentine Georges* Date of Birth June Where were you born Gebweiler, Alsase-Loraine WWI Draft Registration b 25 Aug 1886 Tharl, Austria born 28 June 1896 Gebweiler, Alsase-Loraine * from ancestry.com DIEA:p

2 b Recla (sp?) Island Cuba 27 Sep 1844 Passport Application NYC 1877 from ancestry.com b 26 March 1875 Naples, Italy Declaration of Intention 1914 from ancestry.com DIEA:p115 b 18 April 1866 Christiausand, Norway Petition for Naturalization for service in U.S. Wars Vets could bypass Declaration of Intent (also see service records) Foreign Town of Origin: b 26 March 1875 Terlizzi Italy 1916 Petition for Naturalization 2

3 Declare Intention: pre 1906 unique mention of county in Ireland Alien Register DIEA:p93 Social Security SS-5 Form applied 11 Feb 1938 Marriage Return SC 1881 b 26 March 1875 [Naples] Italy of Frank Ebetino DIEA:p82-82 DIEA:p84 3

4 of Origin - Chicago Birth Return The Holy Cross Church-Census Census Columbus, Ohio in mid s Co Clare Ireland Cana [da[ da] >> >> First record I ve found listing the county of Thomas Doherty s birth in Ireland! Thomas Doherty s mother >>>>>> [note on back of photo] Where is Tolei, Trier? Help from LDS Library (Salt Lake) Where is Tolei,, Trier, Rhysprovinz? Tolei not found near Trier in map nor in LDS Library or Wikipedia nor in the Shell Oil Company German atlas Tolei is spelled Tholey and is about 40 mi SE of Trier 4

5 FHC Records for Tholey, Rheinland Tholey for 1831 birth record of Jacob Ury Confirmed: Jacob Uhry born in Theley (part of Tholey) 25 Feb 1831 of Peter and (Nathar) Uhry Peter Uhry Theley Jacob Uhry geboren Nathar 1831 for marriage record of Jacob s parents Tholey, Rheinland, Germany Civil Registrations Births Peter Uhry Marriage to Nathar 5 Feb 1821 Tholey Maria Buderbach> Peter Uhry << Natar ^Peter Uhry born Peter Uhry Marriage Record to Natar 5 Feb 1821 Tholey Rheinland page 2 Natar born Nicholas Natar Johantha Schutz> Tholey, Rheinland, Germany Civil Registrations Marriage Tholey, Rheinland, Germany Civil Registrations Births Groom s> signature? 5

6 Jacob Ury s German Ancestry The next phase of this never ending search Midwife Journal Bexar Co TX Peter of Tholey Maria Uhry/Uhre Buderbach intholey1821 d Jul 1804 Johantha Schütz d>2feb1821 of Tholey Nicholas Natar -26Mar1804 Peter Uhry d Columbus OH 5 Feb 1821 Tholey Rheinland Jacob Ury d Columbus OH Natar/Nathar b Theley (nearby) Margaretha Edelman dau of Anthony Search next: Theley church and civil records for Schütz and Natar George Zervas, father of George F,. b ca Athens Greece DIEA:p74-75 A very unusual find in 1920 U.S. Census Index Card: Andrew Fedorcask b ca 1893 in Lublo, Hungary Tombstone Inscription born 23 October 1901 in Gigliana, Italy DIEA:p57-60 DIEA:p

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