Welcome to the Traditional Philately Commission Meeting at Philakorea 2014 Chaired by Lars Peter Svendsen Seoul 10 August 2014
Agenda 1. Welcome - By: Lars Peter Svendsen 2. Roll call 3. Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission 4. Plan for the next two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission 5. Presentation of what kind of material can be used and how it can support the treatment in Traditional Philately exhibits - by Lars Peter Svendsen
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission July 2012: Surajit Gongvatana was appointed by the F.I.P. board as responsible for Traditional Philately Commission
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission July 2012: A new Web Page for Traditional Philately Commission
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission The News Tab
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission The Rules & Regulations Tab
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission Exhibiting Tab
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission Download Tab
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission The Commission Tab
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission Nov 2012: The first Traditional Philately Newsletter sent out More newsletter sent out Feb 2013 Jul 2013 May 2014
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission June 2013: A seminar and commission meeting was held in connection with the F.I.P Exhibition Australia 2014 in Melbourne
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission November 2013: Another seminar was held in connection with the F.I.P Exhibition Brasiliana 2014 in Rio
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission April 2014: Brian Trotter resign as Chairman of the Traditional Philately Commission
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission April 2014: Lars Peter Svendsen inform the F.I.P. Board and the commission that I take over the position as Chairman og the Traditional Philately Commission according to the F.I.P. regulations.
Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission August 2014: Spink become the sponsor of the Traditional Philately Commission WEB-page.
Other things: Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission List of Traditional Philately Results at F.I.P. exhibition List of Jurors for Traditional Philately over the last years Discussion in the Bureau about Pre Philatelic material in Trad. Phil. Discussion in the Bureau about Postal Stationeries in Trad. Phil. Discussion in the Bureau about reprints and replicas in Trad. Phil. Comming up: A meeting with the F.I.P. Board tomorrow
Agenda 1. Welcome - By: Lars Peter Svendsen 2. Roll call 3. Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission 4. Plan for the next two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission 5. Presentation of what kind of material can be used and how it can support the treatment in Traditional Philately exhibits - by Lars Peter Svendsen
Plan for the next two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission Items discussed at yesterdays Bureau meeting: Continuing discussions of material allowable and publication of conclusions, if any via website and newsletter. The delegates were encouraged to come up with new discussion points to the Bureau. Obtaining translation for French and review of German translation for current SREVs and Guidelines Review of SREVs and Guidelines to determine if updates are required since they were written, input from delegates welcomed Make a brochure to promote Traditional Philately
Plan for the next two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission! What would you as Commission Member want the Bureau to work on????
Agenda 1. Welcome - By: Lars Peter Svendsen 2. Roll call 3. Status of the last two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission 4. Plan for the next two years of work by the Traditional Philately Commission 5. Presentation of what kind of material can be used and how it can support the treatment in Traditional Philately exhibits - by Lars Peter Svendsen
Presentation of what kind of material can be used and how it can support the treatment in Traditional Philately exhibits! - by Lars Peter Svendsen
How can the exhibitor improve his exhibit? - he has a great knowledge! - he is widely covering the area he shows! - he has a fine computer made presentation! Material The material helps telling the right story Material The material demonstrates knowledge and special studies Material The right material can improve points on rarity Material Material in the right quality improve the points Material Selected material for balancing the presentation
F.I.P. SREV for Traditional Philately clearly describe what is appropriate material. 1. Adopted or rejected essays, die-proofs, plate proofs, colour trials, plate flaws and other errors in stamp production. 2. Postage stamps, whether unused or used, singles or multiples, and stamps used on cover, postal forms, mixed franking with other countries etc. 3. The different usages of the stamp including the different cancellations, rates, routes, although an exhibit consisting entirely of this material would be more appropriate under Postal History. 4. Local stamps, private delivery services, parcel company and carrier stamps, shipping company stamps etc 5. Varieties of all kinds, such as those of watermark, gum, perforation, paper, printing and colour as well as specialities of a single country.
F.I.P. SREV for Traditional Philately clearly describe what is appropriate material. 6. Plate reconstructions and studies of printing plates. 7. Perfins, postally accepted overprints and value surcharges, all kinds of postal labels like registration labels, parcel stickers etc if they are supporting the story to be told. 8. Postal stationery if they are printed with the same cliché as postage stamps and stationery outcuts, if they are used as postage stamps 9. Postally used fiscal stamps and unused fiscals valid for postal use. 10. Postal forgeries. Other forgeries and reprints only in comparison with the genuine stamp if used in a traditional exhibit presenting for instance one issue, see 3.2.4 below
Exhibits will also be considered as traditional philately, if they are made up as following. 1. Collections showing the development of postage stamps. 2. Special studies of papers used in stamp production, gums, perforations, colour variations, errors or graphic design, perfins. 3. Collections of borderline postage items such as letter-culture, letter closing, newspaper labels etc. 4. Collections of fakes and forgeries, reprints, registration labels etc. 5. Research collections like plate reconstructions, development of plate flaws. 6. Comparative collections e.g. issues of several countries including omnibus issues or covering the first issues of a certain region. 7. Other collections with special aspects such as events Day of the Stamp, Christmas mail, fairs and other philatelic events
Adopted or rejected essays, die-proofs, plate proofs, colour trials, plate flaws and other errors in stamp production Essay Plate proof Plate flaws Die proof Colour proof
But the new interesting thing about Traditional Philately is that you have to tell a story!! Here is an example.
The story about issuing the Tasmania Key Plate Issue! In Oct. 1885 the Crown Agent asked De La Rue for two new high value stamps and enclosed an essay for the design. De La Rue didn t like the design to be similar to the existing lower value stamps and produced a lot of other essays all not to the satisfaction of the Crown Agent. Finally the Crown Agent accepted production of the new values based on the existing Key Issue used for other colonies overprinted Tasmania, Postage & Revenue and the stamp value. They were delivered to Tasmania and there rejected by the local government because of the look and the price for production was too high. These 2s6d and 10s stamps were never issued. Many years passed until new stamp design were suggested by De La Rue
The story about issuing the Tasmania Key Plate Issue! De La Rue had in the meantime produced a new Key Plate design with IMPERIUM as sample name. They made some sketches by hand painting some Imperium samples with Tasmania with white china. The design was approved and the first two values of 2 1/2 d. and 5 d. were ordered.
The story about issuing the Tasmania Key Plate Issue! The two new values were engraved in steel - but before hardening, the value was removed from the 5 d. stamp design. New value tablets were engraved, for the 5 d. and in the coming years in other values like the 10 d.
The story about issuing the Tasmania Key Plate Issue! Finally the two printing plates for the new stamps were prepared with 2 x 60 stamps in the sheet and the first print was approved by the printer at De La Rue on the 1 DEC 91. 2.446.800 stamps of 2 1/2d and 1.236.000 stamps of 5d were printed and sent to Tasmania and issued for use on 12 Feb 1892.
Postage stamps, whether unused or used, singles or multiples, and stamps used on cover, postal forms, mixed franking with other countries etc The first Chalons unused are rare, especially four margin copies. One of two largest known multiple of Four Pence Chalon Wmk. Star
Postage stamps, whether unused or used, singles or multiples, and stamps used on cover, postal forms, mixed franking with other countries etc
Postage stamps, whether unused or used, singles or multiples, and stamps used on cover, postal forms, mixed franking with other countries etc Earliest known use of Sideface stamps 1d. (with double perforation) and 2d. issued 1 November 1870, on ship letter cancelled with Melbourne Killer 1 and on the back at arrival marked Melbourne and Carlton, Victoria on 20 December 1870. Rarest stamp from Tasmania 4d. Sideface blue which was only for sale from 1 November 1870 to mid October 1871, where it was withdrawn. Only 7.920 copies distributed to the post offices.
Postage stamps, whether unused or used, singles or multiples, and stamps used on cover, postal forms, mixed franking with other countries etc
The different usages of the stamp including the different cancellations, rates, routes, although an exhibit consisting entirely of this material would be more appropriate under Postal History. Normal barred numeral cancellation Arrival cancellation in other state Victoria Manuscript cancellation Numeral 42 Locally produced cancellation Manuscript cancellation with city name
Varieties of all kinds, such as those of watermark, gum, perforation, paper, printing and colour as well as specialities of a single country. Here is a few stories about Watermarks, Papers, Perforations, Printing and Colours documented through traditional philately material!
On June 5th 1891 De La Rue wrote this letter to the Crown Agent: With reference to your order of 29th ulto. for 2 1/2d and 5d Postage Stamps, we beg to say that we experience considerable difficulty with the watermarked paper made from our existing dandyroll, in consequence of watermark being somewhat out of truth. Traditional Philately Commission Varieties of all kinds, such as those of watermark, gum, perforation, paper, printing and colour as well as specialities of a single country. We therefore propose, with your consent, to make a new dandy-roll, at our own cost, and enclose a tracing to show the arrangement we recommend. The only alteration is that the words Tasmania have to be somewhat smaller i area, to allow of the watermarks TAS being arranged so that one shall fall accurately in each stamp. We can arrange for the dandy-roll to be completed in time to make the paper to used for the two new duties, 2 1/2d and 5d, the printing plates for which are now in hand. We are, Sir, Your obedient servant, Tho. De La Rue
Varieties of all kinds, such as those of watermark, gum, perforation, paper, printing and colour as well as specialities of a single country. With the letter there was a Watermark Essay to demonstrate how the printing paper would look like. The Crown Agent approved by return letter the production of the Dandy-roll as long as it did not delayed printing of the 2 1/2d. and 5d. stamps.
Varieties of all kinds, such as those of watermark, gum, perforation, paper, printing and colour as well as specialities of a single country. In 1855, when Perkins, Bacon shipped their first Chalon Head stamps to Van Diemens Land they by mistake or misunderstanding shipped the printing plates for the 1d., 2d. and 4d. stamps together with the stamps. At the General Post Office, Hobart, Tasmania they realised already in April 1856 that stock of stamps would not last long and requested watermarked printing papers through the Agent General for Crown Colonies as they were not able to manufacture such quality paper themselves. Samples of the margin were cut from the delivered stamp sheets and glued to the letter to show Perkins, Bacon the requested paper quality.
Varieties of all kinds, such as those of watermark, gum, perforation, paper, printing and colour as well as specialities of a single country. The new papers did not arrive from London in time and the Postmaster General had to order the local Newspaper printers to produce stamps of the values 1d., 2d. and 4d. They made proofs on newspaper paper (Only a few copies exists today) The final result was copies made on unwatermarked thin crisp paper in limited quantities until new watermark papers arrived.
Varieties of all kinds, such as those of watermark, gum, perforation, paper, printing and colour as well as specialities of a single country. From October 1857 the Post Office only sold stamps in lots of 5 sheets or more. In order to serve the public stamps were sold to stamps vendors at a discount, who then in turn resold to the public at face value. In the years 1864-69 various people made efforts to simplify stamp separation by perforating the sheets. In 1869 the General Post Office contracted one of the private companies to perforate the stamps for them. In 1871 the government obtained their own perforation machine. Pin perf. 19 Oblique Roulette 11 1/2 Pin perf. 8 Official perf. 11.4
Varieties of all kinds, such as those of watermark, gum, perforation, paper, printing and colour as well as specialities of a single country. Later in 1905-07 many different perforation combinations occur.
Varieties of all kinds, such as those of watermark, gum, perforation, paper, printing and colour as well as specialities of a single country. De La Rue kept systematic records over their printing activities. A colour recipe book was kept to record how the colours of the different stamps were made For each stamp issue a full sheet was stored in the 1 stamp color book to compare the colors if the same stamp had to be reproduced in more copies.
Varieties of all kinds, such as those of watermark, gum, perforation, paper, printing and colour as well as specialities of a single country. Sheets were also kept to record the date of approval of the different printings. Approval of the colour for first printing of the 10d. stamp. Approval of the second printing of the 2s/6d. stamps.
Plate reconstructions and studies of printing plates. When ever possible I try to plate the stamps. For the Couriers reprint of the original plates exist. All stamps are individually engraved and easy to plate.
Perfins, postally accepted overprints and value surcharges, all kinds of postal labels like registration labels, parcel stickers etc if they are supporting the story to be told. Tasmania had maybe the first Perfins in the world.
Perfins, postally accepted overprints and value surcharges, all kinds of postal labels like registration labels, parcel stickers etc if they are supporting the story to be told. In order to live up to the UPU colour for the foreign mail rate it was suggested to overprint nine pence stamps with 2 1/2 d. Unfortunately no stock of nine pence stamps were available for overprint, only 1 penny red and two pence green stamps were on stock. It was decided to reprint some nine pence blue stamps and here after to overprint them with 2 1/2d. Colour proof of the reprinted nine pence A few proofs of the reprinted nine pence stamps exist today and have lighter blue color than the originals. Imperforate copy or proof with overprint
The reprinted stamps also exists with double over print The final sheets looked like this Traditional Philately Commission Perfins, postally accepted overprints and value surcharges, all kinds of postal labels like registration labels, parcel stickers etc if they are supporting the story to be told.